6 years ago
default skins
just like fortnite seeing more and more elite players abusing default skin to look like a new player and or avoid getting targeted...very scummy tactic. Played against 6 of 8 default corns and impos...
I have a polar opposite experience and would like to share a different perspective....
All I play is BA. Period.
ANYTIME 2-3 friends enter their portals together and verse me, I’m IMMEDIATELY targeted. Should I continue to wear unique skins so I’m continually targeted? EDIT: Less than 1% of my time in PvP is spent with friends/I’m ALWAYS solo....
Another perspective (and has been my stance since day uno): I LOVED the Unreal Tournament series. In those games, most skins were universally alike. I preferred this. When I played GW’s, I preferred NO customizations so it was easier to identify enemies. Now, I STILL PREFER all characters be the same skin because it makes the game fair. ... do you know how many skins are used because they’re less visible/harder to see on certain levels? Shouldn’t that be a bigger gripe?
I usually agree with you, @Gormey ... but this one, I couldn’t disagree with more. I love not knowing who the best opponents are and having to approach vets/noobs with the same respect; keeps me on my toes.
...and for anyone wondering, 90% of my characters have custom skins; I don’t try to blend in unless I know I’m being targeted.
@ToastedSarnie wrote:
@spIash_damageI guess it depends on the reason for the custom skins being used? 🤔
I've come across some who appear to be doing it because they think other players will go easier on them, which is what I assumed was being referred to....
If it's to avoid being targeted, I can understand & sympathise with it.
It’s a double edged sword (for certain) but I really wanted to share with Gormey a different perspective.
... I guess my upbringing (with all same skins) caused me to prefer similar skins. If I had it my way, ALL characters would share one skin only.
EDIT: furthermore: at the cut screen, in BA (before the match), opponents get to see one another and if you play a person more than one time, you IMMEDIATELY recognize their unique characters. For me, 9 times out of 10, I’m stuck on a team with 3 noobs who all emote/taunt pre-game. When this happens, the emotes show the other team the emoter’s name and it further narrows down identification of enemies/you can’t really hide. In these scenarios and ESPECIALLY when you’re on the bad side of unfair teams, the ONLY chance you have is to blend in with noobs or leave the server (something I only do for emergencies).
I could ramble on and on about this but in BA and when I employ certain character skins, it’s usually in the name of fairplay and not trying to be scummy. Hope this makes sense.
@YeetYeetGw2 wrote:
@spIash_damageAre you suggesting all of us emoters are noobs? :D
Just kidding, but in all seriousness just because you emote doesn't make you a noob.
Most people who emote in BA don’t realize it shows the other team their name (at the pregame screen). In that regard, most people who emote prematch in BA are BA noobs, no? 🤷🏼♂️😂
@Gormey I don’t exactly run from a good time (targeters). I’ve played against every person in this forum I know of on PS4 and that’s just not my style; I don’t think you’ll find a more aggressive playstyle than my own on console/using a factory controller.
Still, when 3-4 good guns team up against you in the Funderdome, it’s a bit different than TV or TT (all due respect, you eluded to the same fact).
EDIT: I haven’t played against @GutmanSca but need to exchange PSN ID’s and I’d be happy to join him on a European server. 😊👍
I tend to customize the heck out of my characters so in GW2 once I was targeted, I'd often switch to a different character to avoid it. I haven't had this in BfN yet barring the first few matches after unlocking wizard. Unfortunately there's no real way to prevent targeting, which at best is obnoxious to be a part of. Even newer players tend to use at least some customizations so being a plain Jane basic skin would itself stick out.
@Iron_Guard8 wrote:I tend to customize the heck out of my characters so in GW2 once I was targeted, I'd often switch to a different character to avoid it. I haven't had this in BfN yet barring the first few matches after unlocking wizard. Unfortunately there's no real way to prevent targeting, which at best is obnoxious to be a part of. Even newer players tend to use at least some customizations so being a plain Jane basic skin would itself stick out.
Hate prefacing a post but for anyone that doesn’t know, I respect Iron Guard greatly...
That said, I just don’t think you play enough competitive BA/PvP, buddy. (Which is sad/unfortunate for the PC crowd; I know you’d play more, if the community was thriving.).
On PS4, I can find a game of BA in a matter of seconds. Most matches, there’s regular gaming - I’m sure relatively close to the same as you experience in PC. About 5-20% of the matches (varies greatly day to day) are toxic or unfair... another small percentage of matches are extremely competive/nail biting.
In those toxic or competitive matches, you’ll see the taunting or sneaky strategies employed.
I’m betting the lack of community keeps much of this less common activity out of PC games more than console?
Dang - you need to buy a PS4 and KBM converter already!
As I've said before I play quite a bit of PvP, just never BA as apparently it's pretty dead on PC so haven't tried it (I do want to though), it's all TT and the weekly events as they pop pretty much instantly when I normally play. I have played many other shooters where PvP was the only mode available going back to the old days with no mouse look and of course our favorite controller based shooter; Goldeneye on the N64 (although it's only on the console before they connected to the internet so it doesn't really count since it was friends only). I've seen all kinds of garbage plays and terrible teammates, people exploiting terrain, using costumes or skins that let them blend in or are glitched to a certain degree that provides an advantage and so on.
When BA goes ranked, I expect it to get MUCH worse. Clan Wars in WoT made regular matches look like lovefests and I used to turn my chat off in those pick up games after getting all kinds of lovely messages from people that include various degrees of self-harm so you can imagine how bad those could get.
For BfN, the worst I saw was in Zack Scott's video where he kept getting targeted by a couple of people that always taunted after they vanquished him. I loathe that kind of behavior and anyone that needs to exploit mechanics to win needs to reevaluate their life choices.
Wolfy and Zero get targeted a lot in both GW games and some in BfN too. I have been targeted in all 3 games but when it gets bad I will likely switch to a different character/variant to confuse them, and so far it's only been as Wizard in BfN or if it was happening elsewhere, I was able to smack the other person enough that I didn't notice.
To be honest, considering the nasty messages I see console players show that they receive, it sounds like the console community is significantly worse than the PC crowd is. I have 3200 hours between the 3 games and a large chunk is PvP, especially in GW1 that lacked bot matches and real solo play, and I rarely see the same behavior I've seen in OW, WoT, and some of the stuff console players have linked from the messaging service that the modern consoles have.