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EA StaffExpressions You'd like to see
Exactly as the title states!
I'd love to hear y'alls favorite expressions that you'd love to see show up in the game. (No promises, but you never know)
Forum Discussion
@asabaida I think a bit of research should be invested, as you suggest, when and if the developers decide to include a phrase or image which has entered online meme culture because a lot of the time the source of that content gets lost over time as whatever it is enters the realm of pop culture.
Case in point, a couple of years ago our teenager was going around repeating a popular meme phrase which he had heard from his friends involving a character from a movie franchise that he liked without any idea of the context behind that phrase- I'm deliberately being vague here because the context is decidedly not family friendly.
He wound up adopting that meme phrase as his own personal catch phrase probably because all of his friends thought it was funny when he said it and I have no idea how long he was repeating it but one day be casually used it in my presence and I asked him if he knew the implications of what he was saying. Needless to say he was pretty horrified when I informed him.
I've had to educate him a couple of times with various things he's adopted as catchphrases since then.
But story telling aside, I don't think that everything needs to be researched because that's largely unnecessary and a waste of time and resources because if you look deep enough into anything and twist it around in your mind enough literally anything that might be added could be turned into a double entendre and you'll otherwise rule out harmlessly silly catchphrases. Don't go down that particular Internet rabbit hole because you probably won't like what you find.
At the end of the day, for the majority of people a Taco is just a kind of Mexican dish which Crazy Dave has for lunch.
Case in point, a couple of years ago our teenager was going around repeating a popular meme phrase which he had heard from his friends involving a character from a movie franchise that he liked without any idea of the context behind that phrase- I'm deliberately being vague here because the context is decidedly not family friendly.
He wound up adopting that meme phrase as his own personal catch phrase probably because all of his friends thought it was funny when he said it and I have no idea how long he was repeating it but one day be casually used it in my presence and I asked him if he knew the implications of what he was saying. Needless to say he was pretty horrified when I informed him.
I've had to educate him a couple of times with various things he's adopted as catchphrases since then.
But story telling aside, I don't think that everything needs to be researched because that's largely unnecessary and a waste of time and resources because if you look deep enough into anything and twist it around in your mind enough literally anything that might be added could be turned into a double entendre and you'll otherwise rule out harmlessly silly catchphrases. Don't go down that particular Internet rabbit hole because you probably won't like what you find.
At the end of the day, for the majority of people a Taco is just a kind of Mexican dish which Crazy Dave has for lunch.
@realitysquared @asabaida isn't the only member of the forum who thinks there are issues with some of these though.
I've expressed concern that these innocent sounding emotes are being used in a nastier way & that has been clear to me by the behaviour of players using some of these & @spIash_damage had previously mentioned taco as an example.
With all respect, I understand the point you're making, but if we know some of these do have other meanings, then surely we should change things?
I've expressed concern that these innocent sounding emotes are being used in a nastier way & that has been clear to me by the behaviour of players using some of these & @spIash_damage had previously mentioned taco as an example.
With all respect, I understand the point you're making, but if we know some of these do have other meanings, then surely we should change things?
@ToastedSarnie Some people don’t kill enough toxic players to see the issue with toxicity of taunting. Some people enjoy taunting and honestly don’t care about hurting other people’s feelings and/or whether children are online.
....There’s nothing you’ll say to those people, ESPECIALLY those who PvE only, to make them understand the issue. Couple that with those who’re children themselves and/or don’t have their own children, and it’s a lost cause trying to explain why these are morally out of place in the PvZ franchise.
I don’t care what anyone thinks, I don’t want to tell my 9 year old son why a toxic punk repetitively taunts poop, tacos, beef wellington, and cats but nothing else.
EDIT: autocorrect
I think this is one i would use a lot; "let's go play GW2"
stop running, fool!
or how about " your collective intelligence is beneath my own." or is that too long?
- @ToastedSarnie The issue here isn’t that some of the emotes and expressions can be used offensively- personally when I saw them adding the “poop” emote I knew exactly how some players would employ it and some extra forethought should have been put into that addition beyond the fact that it’s a standard emote which can be found everywhere because PvZ is a competitive environment.
The problem I foresee with trying to completely sanitize the emotes and expressions from any possible subjective secondary meanings it that you can quickly find reasons to remove nearly everything which has already been added and to not ever add anything ever again.
What do you do when, after you’ve removed an emote because a minority consider it to be an anatomical reference, that particular crowd apply that subjective interpretation to another emote or begin to apply new alternate meanings to other ones?
Remove the Taco and Cat emotes because of a secondary adult slang meaning and another will be swapped in- like Bitter Dill or Fish or who knows what else. Even “Brainz?”, a word intrinsic to the franchise, could be employed as a taunt to infer that a player is stupid.
I stand behind my opinion that research is best served when adopting memes or popular phrases from the Internet but if your goal is to completely sanitize the system so that it becomes a completely safe space for absolutely everyone with no chance whatsoever for a double entendre then you might as well advocate for the entire system to be scrapped and removed because there will be no end to that process.
Just pull all of it out and return us to the simple gestures we had in GW1 and GW2- but it’s doubtful that this will happen because of the work already invested in the expanded system and how it’s been baked into every Prize Map and the games Prize Bulb and Rainbow Star economy. - @realitysquared I'm sorry, but the fact that some of these can be and are being used offensively is precisely the issue for me.
I don't believe I said at any point that the entire system should be sanitized to such an extent that it needs to be scrapped & I wouldn't expect it to be - I'm just expressing my personal opinion that some of these should be removed & any new ones that are added should be carefully thought through.
Alternatively as @dwooten77 suggested, perhaps a way could be introduced to switch these off so players don't see the emotes being used by others if they don't want to.
I'm bowing out of this discussion because the thread has been derailed enough - please let us just agree to differ & respect each other's right to their own opinion.
