[Feedback] PvZ needs more love

@Iron_Guard8Very late to the party since my EA account decided I no longer existed and lack of interest outside of a anniversary post on bfn's last update/birthday but I agree wholeheartedly that the situation is very grim.

Ever since the portal fix got shot down and the anti cheat rolled straight into a flaming dumpster the activity shrank extremely. Shame as the portal fix news caused a lot of players to consider coming back before it got shot down. There's just nothing to discuss about anymore.

Pvz3 now has a choose your seeds function but I wonder how this will affect a lot of the game since the roster and levels are poorly balanced at the moment and built around the old design.

It's a darn shame nothing is going on at the moment as a lot of the community including some of the youtubers that quit/took breaks a while back have come back most likely out of a sense of nostalgia maybe.

Darn shame a true gw3 will never likely come out as now that the community has grown up a lot since it's been 10 years since gw2 and I've seen far more memes and animations about the shooters on the internet.

People overall are now looking back at garden warfare and going "oh wait this was actually really good and not just my rose tinted glasses".

Sadly I dont think we'll ever see that day even if pvz gets back on its feet. The behind the scenes incompetence  that led to the cancellation of project hot tub into the hasty release of bfn still plague the industry and if what Sony and Microsoft's higher ups keep saying shows it won't go away as these people actively live to spite their customers.

Even now EA is considering in game ads for battlefield 6. I swear sometimes it feels the next video game crash can't happen soon enough.

Good to see you as always @stukapooka . I appreciate the replies @EA_Shepard , although I really wish we'd get some good news for this IP one of these days. 

And as you point out stukapooka, GW2 is that good! I do love the original too, and some love that one more than 2, but the general sentiment is that 2 mostly improved over the original, but the original was great too. I have played other multiplayer shooters over the years; loved TF2, played a lot of Paladins, OW for a time, and some others too, but none have been as fun or kept my interest as long as GW2. It's partly because I love PvZ, partly because the game is so much fun, even against bots (although PvP matches without cheaters are better), and there is so much to do thanks to the excellent backyard battleground and the events we used to get on top of the great PvP and Ops. 

I don't even want/need a graphics update, GW and GW2 look great and since they aren't going for ultra-realism, they don't need an overall for their looks, we just need some balancing, new maps, better net code, and better support. I'd love to play all the maps from the GW2 games with some new characters/variants and more PvE options!

@Iron_Guard8 Im asking. There is a lot that goes into getting updates, messages etc. Everything has to be approved, tested, signed off on, you name it. I am sitting here waiting just like the players. It does get frustrating for sure. I am not a game dev so my suggestions are limited on how to fix things but more geared toward what can we do for players.

@Iron_Guard8I still long for the day a new shooter can come along and replicate how gw1 treated vertical map design. No shooter that I know of since has really replicated it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again if it was possible I'd learn coding/programming and just update the game myself If I could.

I gotta get back into pc since my accounts fixed and get some mods past the system because I dont care what EA says I'm playing solo play on wallnut hills with super brains and a dozen gw1 stats flag zombie teammates darn it!

The artsyle for all the games hold up imo. Going for stylization over realism allows a lot of games to live past their time graphics wise. I'm against a lot of people who think pvz 1 needs a remaster for this reason. What we really it is just it or a classic popcap games collection ported to newer consoles like the switch and ps5/series x (I know some have the digital store stuff but physical collections would be nice) but it sadly seems EA/Popcap wont do that seeing as how gw1 never even got to come to steam. I know mobile makes the most revenue but if they ever want the series to expand again they're gonna have to actually take some risk with console.

Whenever the bfn post comes around I'm gonna list a few mode ideas to compare it against how the game only added the shortly lived battle arena.

I'm still around and check the forums every now and then. But i am also convinced that the franchise is pretty much dead at this point. Whatever analysts have decided that easier money is elswhere to be made. I've also decided not to take part in this Kernel-Mode mess and to uninstall the games.

And since i have recordings i can say with certainty that the last time i played GW2 multiplayer was 2022-06-01, which is what the file name reads. Not only to be annoyed by the fact that the new EA App is awful and even that terrible Origin was better, but also by that fact that once i loaded in recently to play it coop with an old friend, who now unfortunately passed away, to find out that even after such a long time not taking part in any online play, my account was targeted by those level shenanigans. For whatever dumb reason.

But speaking of recordings, that exact video also reminded me of why i stopped again: a cheater who just happened to have 169 vanquishes in a TT match with a 70 damage to insta-kill electro pea. And yes i reported the account. And yes i expect EA to have said user banned after having sent them the video with time stamps of evidence.

But i am tired of all of this and EA is not innocent here on their constant quest to find the perfect formula of unlimited growth. As cheating becomes worse every day and a large portion of players jump ship. One third actually. And even exploits remain unpatched leaving us alone with an "as is".

I will keep an eye on this whole anti-cheat development. But a can of worms can not outweigh year-long negligence.