Effectively, going viral, with the current buffing that zombies get from stompadon makes the game as @PRIMECUTS mentioned ridiculous. A good game has now become unbalanced. There is no way to deal with the going viral, which teamed with the protection and buffed zombies. Plants, players may as well give up and just be zombies. Then the zombie have no opponents, apart from AI. I know the usual people will come back saying, oh no, its not that bad, blah, blah, blah.. and Plants had it all their way with artichoke, healing.. It was never that bad as it is now.

@saintlydevilis wrote:Effectively, going viral, with the current buffing that zombies get from stompadon makes the game as @PRIMECUTS mentioned ridiculous. A good game has now become unbalanced. There is no way to deal with the going viral, which teamed with the protection and buffed zombies. Plants, players may as well give up and just be zombies. Then the zombie have no opponents, apart from AI. I know the usual people will come back saying, oh no, its not that bad, blah, blah, blah.. and Plants had it all their way with artichoke, healing.. It was never that bad as it is now.Blah, blah, blah, blah...Sorry...couldn't resist. :D For the record my main zombie deck doesn't use GV or Stompadon if that brings you any happiness. It does have QDCs though... BPRD

Haven't I seen a forum thread like this before? Or have I seen 2 like this before? Or 3... or 4...

Until now I have not met with Viral Going even once, and i'm plant player, so I suppose I'm one of those so dear Blah Blah Blah user xD.The problem is in the huge band that complained about Venus Flytrap, they change it, and now they complain that the plants are weak, then they modify Going Viral, and then the forum full of complaints that the zombies are weak. I imagine the developers banging their heads against the wall.The users that we keep in this forum have seen how a group of users ask for a change, and then they change it, next month there is another group complaining about that change, they say: why did they modify it? now they destroyed the game. They fix it and next month another group new to the same.in fact I remember perfectly that Clique Peas was going to be reduced before, but they did not, then the rumor spread again, and it was not, until finally in Fossil they were modified, to then all be saddened by weak plants. 🤨is what bothers me, It's not so easy to design a game like this, and just say fix it and then always be dissatisfied with any change, it's frustrating, I prefer to read suggestions, new plants that can fight better against the previous ones. but I guess this problem is always going to exist.a suggestion for you @saintlydevilis is that you recommend a change to Viral Going at least, any ideas, I recommend more plants like Black Eyed Pea or Sportacus. but change the current ones I don't like much, it's my way of seeing. I don't want to downplay the problem you mention, but I really want that in the future we have no more problems because it was better to leave Viral Going as it is. Similar to Venus Flytrap, now a 4 environment cost for most plants to die in the attempt, with these new zombies so powerful, would we really need that change? but it was done by those innumerable complaints over and over again. if the developers had told us that in the future a Quick Draw would drain our health very fast and we would need VenusFlytrap to recover it, I think it would not have complained so much about VFT.

There have always been broken cards since the beginning of the game, as simple as that.I remember a lot of "old school" cards that made the matches super infuriating, because it left you with little to no counter-play.Here are some examples of what I'm talking about:-Flamenco Zombie (up to 8 face damage)-Zombie Coach (up to 4 invulnerable zombies)-Walrus Rider (it was hard to counter amphibious zombies back then)-Mirror Nut (high damage - high defense deck)-Grapes of Wrath (free 6 face damage)-Dandy Lion King (up to 10 face damage)-Re-Peat Moss (One-Turn-Kill combos)-Potted Powerhouse (same, but with Plant Food)-Admiral Navy Bean (free face damage)-Winter Squash (kill any zombie)The card that I used to hate the most out of all was Grapes of Wrath.If you left it unattended, it would kill you. If you killed it, you would take 6 damage.I mean, you could literally win a game with just 4 Grapes of Wrath and some control cards (removal, healing).But, if this cards used to be so OP... Why they don't have much play anymore then?The fact here relies on 2 things: Counter cards and learning how to play around them.From time to time the devs analyze the cards that have the biggest win-rate and release some "counter-cards" to them. (Bonus Track Buckethead to counter Bonus attacks, Sneezing Zombie to counter Healing, Three-nut to counter Weed Spray, etc).What I'm trying to say is that, I don't doubt that Going Viral or Untrickable are causing a lot of trouble right now, but sadly these cards are here to stay. That's how the card variety works. The devs want a card that gives Zombies frenzy, so the game will get a card that gives Zombies frenzy. However, this doesn't mean that the game is over. Players will adapt to the broken strategies until A) The card gets nerfed, B) they release a pretty good counter-card or C) they get so good at playing around the card that it is not playable anymore (Anyone remember Bad Moon Rising?)So fear not my friend, there is still hope. Wing Nuts, Zucchini, Briar Rose, Splash Damage or simply just aggressive decks are good counters for these cards right not.

Yeah. It’s a mess. I finally ground my way to Ultimate league with a Nightcap deck. But only after it seems like all the zombie players quit playing all the stompadon viral decks I saw early on. I guess it got too boring for them.

Going Viral needs to be nerfed. Or no point in playing this game

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daalnnii
8 years ago
Keep in mind that Captain cucumber will not only give only legendaries upon doing damage, but it will also make them cost one less AND that ability stacks depending on how many Cpt Cukes are on the board AND that reduced cost effect counts towards every conjured card, be it from cpt cuke, banana peel (which has a chance to draw two amazing legendaries and a solid event card), plucky, etc. That's a lot of value and a ton of crazy cards.

That said, you're going to really hate this week's event card... Especially it's effect on stompadon and qdc.
Azombioso
8 years ago
There have always been broken cards since the beginning of the game, as simple as that.
I remember a lot of "old school" cards that made the matches super infuriating, because it left you with little to no counter-play.
Here are some examples of what I'm talking about:
-Flamenco Zombie (up to 8 face damage)
-Zombie Coach (up to 4 invulnerable zombies)
-Walrus Rider (it was hard to counter amphibious zombies back then)
-Mirror Nut (high damage - high defense deck)
-Grapes of Wrath (free 6 face damage)
-Dandy Lion King (up to 10 face damage)
-Re-Peat Moss (One-Turn-Kill combos)
-Potted Powerhouse (same, but with Plant Food)
-Admiral Navy Bean (free face damage)
-Winter Squash (kill any zombie)
The card that I used to hate the most out of all was Grapes of Wrath.
If you left it unattended, it would kill you.
If you killed it, you would take 6 damage.
I mean, you could literally win a game with just 4 Grapes of Wrath and some control cards (removal, healing).
But, if this cards used to be so OP... Why they don't have much play anymore then?
The fact here relies on 2 things: Counter cards and learning how to play around them.
From time to time the devs analyze the cards that have the biggest win-rate and release some "counter-cards" to them. (Bonus Track Buckethead to counter Bonus attacks, Sneezing Zombie to counter Healing, Three-nut to counter Weed Spray, etc).
What I'm trying to say is that, I don't doubt that Going Viral or Untrickable are causing a lot of trouble right now, but sadly these cards are here to stay. That's how the card variety works. The devs want a card that gives Zombies frenzy, so the game will get a card that gives Zombies frenzy. However, this doesn't mean that the game is over. Players will adapt to the broken strategies until A) The card gets nerfed, B) they release a pretty good counter-card or C) they get so good at playing around the card that it is not playable anymore (Anyone remember Bad Moon Rising?)
So fear not my friend, there is still hope. Wing Nuts, Zucchini, Briar Rose, Splash Damage or simply just aggressive decks are good counters for these cards right not.
PRIMECUTS
8 years ago
Nope. Wrong. Going Viral is super bs and Colossal fossilhead, zomblob and quick draw are waaaay to cheap.
BlazinsZ
8 years ago
True, even these days i commented on how powerful Double Mint was, if he managed to grow it was a headache, similar to Hibernating Beary, but now there are so many ways to make "deadly" a zombie, that has ceased to be a threat, even as legendary no longer causes the same sensation, I know that the same will happen to these new ones.
Anonymous
8 years ago
QuickDraw is kind of an annoying answer to Astroshroom and/or Admiral Bean. As far as fossilhead, I rarely use hearty as it is.
Anonymous
8 years ago
Why, exactly, should it be nerfed? There's a card that cost 6, gives you a 4/3, and has the same effect, other than shuffling cards into your deck. So you get a 5/4 + the buff, technically giving you more value than going viral. Sure, it's more expensive, but it's nowhere near OP. Usage rate does not equal power. If you are having trouble I would recommend citron bounce, rose freeze, or CC aggro. Those are all fairly cheap, and good decks in the plant meta rn

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