Healers Discussion
Tweet from EA_PvZ_Mario (PvZ BFN lead multiplayer designer) regarding healers & overhealth. Tweet link: https://twitter.com/ea_pvz_mario/status/1230688746393108481?s=20 Hurrah! Sunflower...
Forum Discussion
@Positronic-Rift I wonder what they'll be good at once healing is gutted. Dying maybe? 🤔
- As someone who has always enjoyed playing heals, these discussions about healers & Sunflower in particular make me very nervous.
Few enough people play Sunflower in PvP as it is, unless they HAVE to . . . yes, her heal abilities are very good but her self-defence capabilities & the support xp is pitifully poor.
I would hope that no adjustments are made purely to heals - that the whole character package is looked at & I personally would happily see the back of overhealth completely - I think it's of limited value to team-mates & worthless in terms of xp for the healers.
I'd also be a lot happier if nothing was changed until PopCap have had time to review data from a couple of months of 12 vs 12 returning.
Though it's not my style as I prefer hopping around helping all of my team, I think 8 vs 8 has required many playing Sunflower to stick closely to one or two good players in order to survive & that has caused issues.
I believe 12 vs 12 will bring a change in strategy for both teams, which is probably worth assessing prior to any adjustments.
There - I've done my best to give reasonable & balanced thoughts, but have a draft rant at the ready, should I need it! 🤪😂@ToastedSarnieSunflower has been my favorite plant since GW1 and still is. She was my 2nd grandmaster plant (Acorn was 1st) and I love playing her. I 100% agree that healing should provide more XP, and of course so should reviving, helping with revives, and a few other things as well. Maybe all they have to do is adjust a couple of her abilities like they did with blossom so you can't combo like I do in my builds for her. I used to have that blossom/cocoon build before the change and that was really strong, but my 2 builds for her still give a lot of self-healing and survival.
I've seen several concerns voiced over her self-healing more than her ability to heal others which is why I mentioned that at all. There are several abilities that can one-shot, or nearly one shot characters, especially lower health ones like her, so maybe all they need to do is tweak some upgrades and call it good.
- @Iron_Guard8 Yes, it's a tricky one. It's the calls I've seen in other places for heavy healing nerfs that makes me nervous, because the vast majority are coming from players who do not play Sunflower in PvP.
Blossom can help enormously if Sunflower is linking herself to just one good player, but if you're on an inexperienced / unsupportive team or using your heal beam on two players instead of linking yourself, it's a very different story. That's why I think if anything's changed it needs to be done gently & balanced all round.
I agree Scientist is weaker at self-healing, but on the other hand does the ability to self-heal need to be stronger for him?
He still manages to often top the podium for vanquishes & does have warp to get to a place of safety to regen... and I think changes to his heals were probably introduced in BFN to try & get away from the near invincible warping pairings you'd get in GW2.
Idk! 🤷♀️ A lot of general thoughts not all addressed specifically at you, Iron Guard! (Still trying to swerve the rant.... 😂🤣)
