@Artomos wrote:
Both teams should be forced to play as a team, not just one. That's where the imbalance comes from, however you play with your own group; I run solo and I can see where the imbalance lays. I mean, I do well on my own with plants and zombies, however, that does not discard the fact that Zombies can obliterate plants with little to no effort. It also comes down to imbalance between variants and plants. Plants don't really have many sniping classes, whilst zombies, pretty much almost every single class has some sort of sniping variant. Thus, range battles become very one sided.
".. I run solo," is something that should not be done on a multiplayer shooter with objectives in mind and is what fuels the crux of my argument: You need to play as a team. I can not reduce that statement any further-- only offer premises to this conclusion.
"...however, that does not discard the fact that Zombies can obliterate plants with little to no effort." I only agree with this statement in one situation, concerning electric brain, who is obviously broken. Every zombie has a legitimate plant counter and can be beaten, e.g.: Most zombie skills are cut short with Rose's stun/goatify (including Super Brain's spin attack and Imp's impkata); 3/4 of a sunflower's sun beam bar or pea shooter's gatling amo is enough to kill a mech; Any cactus can 2 or 3 shot a scientist (albeit, with head shots); chomper can swallow anyone as long as they are not in vehicle mode (mech, blot shooter, jackhammer); These are only a few examples of viable counters.
"Plants don't really have many sniping classes"... All but one cactus, sunflower beam or peashooter gatling, many pea shooter variants and all citrons are viable snipers.
The more you post, the more you are exposing your true love for zombies and showcasing why this is just one big mega troll.
Pea Gatling isn't a sniper, neither is Citrons beam...are you high or something? You are listing counters to broken zombies using every Plant character, without detailing why each character is weak against the majority of every zombie. Any zombie can stomp almost every plant right now, they have no weakness? You need to absorb this fact.
I think I've nailed it, you don't win most games and you definitely don't play Plants. I want a screenshot of your backyard Plants, promotions and the same for your zombies.
If you loved plants, you would be defending them and agreeing with why some are so weak...but EVERY SINGLE post you make opposes any changes or fixes to any Plant. Your posts are absolutely ridiculous, you're quoting frustrations and expressions of people and arguing a case that doesn't even need to be argued.
Edit: Removed a few hate comments, that's not me.
@Zaheen1337, I do love zombies and plants equal- I am faction blind 😉. However, I do have more of the Zombie classes maxed simply because I played as them pre-patch to figure out the best way to counter rose. I am now using that same reasoning post-patch: playing Plants more often to figure out the best zombie counters. My most played character is *EDIT* fire flower and I que plant side any time I play, especially with my group.However, my switching of most played faction does not validate anyone's opinion on overbearing balance, nor does it disprove that plants have to work a bit harder (which I never denied and can be due to many factors). If electro brain is taken out of the equation, I truly believe the game is very balanced.
@JamesRivera88 wrote:@Zaheen1337, I do love zombies and plants equal- I am faction blind 😉. However, I do have more of the Zombie classes maxed simply because I played as them pre-patch to figure out the best way to counter rose. I am now using that same reasoning post-patch: playing Plants more often to figure out the best zombie counters. My most played character is *EDIT* fire flower and I que plant side any time I play, especially with my group.However, my switching of most played faction does not validate anyone's opinion on overbearing balance, nor does it disprove that plants have to work a bit harder (which I never denied and can be due to many factors). If electro brain is taken out of the equation, I truly believe the game is very balanced.
Faction blind my *. I am faction blind, it's why I want balance! Anyone who opposes true balance in any game is faction blind, and that's definitely you right now according to your posts...
Dude, I have respect for you because you're honest, and I have more for you because you're justifying why they're balanced in some very unique and twisted little way.
Just admit Plants suck now, because they do, and that's why your bloody zombies are maxed out. You certainly didn't max out zombies to counter Rose, I bet your Rose is maxed out too, right?! Sure she is...
Electro Brains is broken, now go play some of the Engineer variants, they hit harder than almost every Cactus! Scientist upgrades give some OP variants more ammo and faster reloading which is like the ultimate troll of all, they don't even need this! They can take out 3 plants at a time with no upgrades, upgrades just mean you can probably take out the whole bloody team solo! AS THE HEALER CLASS!
Well scientist in the current state of things doesnt require any decision making to play it.
Think about it.
If you were a primary zombie player you'd probably win them all :D
