@JamesRivera88 wrote:@Zaheen1337, I do love zombies and plants equal- I am faction blind 😉. However, I do have more of the Zombie classes maxed simply because I played as them pre-patch to figure out the best way to counter rose. I am now using that same reasoning post-patch: playing Plants more often to figure out the best zombie counters. My most played character is *EDIT* fire flower and I que plant side any time I play, especially with my group.However, my switching of most played faction does not validate anyone's opinion on overbearing balance, nor does it disprove that plants have to work a bit harder (which I never denied and can be due to many factors). If electro brain is taken out of the equation, I truly believe the game is very balanced.
Faction blind my *. I am faction blind, it's why I want balance! Anyone who opposes true balance in any game is faction blind, and that's definitely you right now according to your posts...
Dude, I have respect for you because you're honest, and I have more for you because you're justifying why they're balanced in some very unique and twisted little way.
Just admit Plants suck now, because they do, and that's why your bloody zombies are maxed out. You certainly didn't max out zombies to counter Rose, I bet your Rose is maxed out too, right?! Sure she is...
Electro Brains is broken, now go play some of the Engineer variants, they hit harder than almost every Cactus! Scientist upgrades give some OP variants more ammo and faster reloading which is like the ultimate troll of all, they don't even need this! They can take out 3 plants at a time with no upgrades, upgrades just mean you can probably take out the whole bloody team solo! AS THE HEALER CLASS!
You really should avoid getting heated up and making assumption, especially those that are fallacious. As you can see from the following picture, my usage of both teams is virtually split.
Couldn't help notice Fire Rose, Electro Brains, most of the Engineers maxed out. Zen Cactus, pre patch no doubt?
All the OP variants, easy to level or incredibly broken. I'm on my iPad so can't really see them or zoom into them but kudos to you for posting them all, and if everything you're saying is true then I'll apologise for saying it wasn't.
@JamesRivera88, I'm not at all doubting your ability to perform well with any character, as many skilled players can do the same. All I am trying to point out is the mega imbalance of one faction to another, and if you can't see that then you're playing on a different platform. PC gamers will eliminate some of the imbalance due to keyboard and mouse, but from a controllers perspective some of the classes are weak. That's unfortunately most of the Plant side, and since most of the players are probably on console then it should be balanced accordingly.
Zaheen1337 wrote:
Couldn't help notice Fire Rose, Electro Brains, most of the Engineers maxed out. Zen Cactus, pre patch no doubt?
I am unsure as to how to do this on apple OS, but you can "view image" on windows and then zoom your browser in or download the image and zoom in that way.
my maxed Characters include: 4 all stars, 2 sunflower, 2 scientist, 1 pea shooters, 1 rose, 2 engineer, 1 cactus, and 1 corn. That is 8 zombies and 7 plants.
And to be honest @Zaheen1337 it is comments like this that make no sense to me:
"Leave him to his joke thread, he's openly admitted to playing zombies, thus proving this thread is nothing but a hindrance and annoyance to anyone trying to enjoy a balanced game."
If this thread was such a joke, then you wouldn't be paying it this much attention. The truth probably is, you are looking for debate, but you choose to make off handed comments regarding my character as a person (referencing me cheating in your other thread) and play skill, something you have done to other people in other topics. If you are looking for healthy argumentation regarding an "unbalanced game" issue, tone it down on the personal attacks and objectively read what you write before you post it.
I do not intend to convey that this game is perfectly balanced, no game is. I am trying to express the need for teamwork to overcome any perceived balances until they are resolved or forgotten. Towards the end of the Roseacolyps, she became less of a threat because many people learned how to counter her and she is now viewed, post patch- by a vast majority- as useless because of this. I believe the same fate awaits any character, plant or zombie.
With that being said, even if or when characters get fixed, nerfed, or patched, this game WILL favor the group and not the solo player.
Dude you come onto the threads I make and insult me directly, claim that all my replies are attacks on players without fundamentally discussing balance. Which is complete trash, I may at times let off a little steam, but that is purely to try and get my point to sink into your head.
You are still singing the same tune about lack of teamwork, how the heck are you suppose to play as a team when the teams are 6v4, 3v9, 2v5. Whenever I see a group of plants I laugh my head off and say in my head 'It's party time' and a few seconds later they're all dead.
Do Plants have mechs with 400 health? Do Zombies have abilities like Imp Punt, and broken classes like Electro Brains that insta kill groups of zombies, Scientist is capable of wiping out a group of enemies...
Everything you're implying is not reasonable or functional in any game played on the PS4, players are generally always stacked on the zombies and I really wish you were bloody on the same platform so you could see for yourself.
Thanks, I gathered I'd probably need to view it on a PC, and kudos to you for levelling up. Regardless of what you have mastered, now look at where it says detailed statistics and show, or look at the K/D ratio, and how many vanquishes and kills, streaks you've had with each of the classes you've played with, and tell me that they match up or are balanced? You can't do that, and if they match equally then you're either lying or you're lying.
I posted my previous comment because I had just seen your hate comments on my thread, truth is James...
You are NOT a primary Plant player, and you DO NOT win every game as Plants. Thus making this whole thread one big troll and lie, and since we proved that you enjoy the zombies side more yesterday with contradictory comments, left me with nothing to say except leave you alone to your little troll thread.
