Ice Rose
Ice Rose is pretty useless now. I made the mistake of starting to upgrade her to Max before the patch and she was pretty bad then. Since the patch though, it takes a millennia to actually freeze someo...
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@ActiveMe4U2 wrote:
Re: Ice Rose
JamesRivera88
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03-13-2016 07:52 PM - edited 03-13-2016 07:54 PM
She isn't supposed to be a terror with DPS, she is a support
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I was just talking to the scientist at close range, he sends his regards...
Scientist does the same dmg as Sunflower in a 10 second time period. Scientist does less dmg over a 10 minute time period. Math has been laid out in another thread for viewing.
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Re: Ice Rose
Rhendyr
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03-14-2016 07:02 AM
ActiveMe4U2 wrote:
Re: Ice Rose
JamesRivera88
★★★★ NOVICE
03-13-2016 07:52 PM - edited 03-13-2016 07:54 PM
She isn't supposed to be a terror with DPS, she is a support
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I was just talking to the scientist at close range, he sends his regards...
Scientist does the same dmg as Sunflower in a 10 second time period. Scientist does less dmg over a 10 minute time period. Math has been laid out in another thread for viewing.
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I know you are smarter than this reply.
Do I really need to point out the fact this information is irrelevant? The burst damage is what really counts here.
There isn't a single plant that will last 10 seconds vs a scientist at close range. The Sunflower won't last 3 seconds vs a scientist it will take 2 shots.
Re: Ice Rose
Rhendyr
★★★★★ NOVICE
03-14-2016 07:02 AM
ActiveMe4U2 wrote:
Re: Ice Rose
JamesRivera88
★★★★ NOVICE
03-13-2016 07:52 PM - edited 03-13-2016 07:54 PM
She isn't supposed to be a terror with DPS, she is a support
_______________________
I was just talking to the scientist at close range, he sends his regards...
Scientist does the same dmg as Sunflower in a 10 second time period. Scientist does less dmg over a 10 minute time period. Math has been laid out in another thread for viewing.
_______________________________
I know you are smarter than this reply.
Do I really need to point out the fact this information is irrelevant? The burst damage is what really counts here.
There isn't a single plant that will last 10 seconds vs a scientist at close range. The Sunflower won't last 3 seconds vs a scientist it will take 2 shots.
@ActiveMe4U2 wrote:
REPLYING TO:
Re: Ice Rose
Rhendyr
★★★★★ NOVICE
03-14-2016 07:02 AM
@ActiveMe4U2 wrote:
Re: Ice Rose
JamesRivera88
★★★★ NOVICE
03-13-2016 07:52 PM - edited 03-13-2016 07:54 PM
She isn't supposed to be a terror with DPS, she is a support
_______________________
I was just talking to the scientist at close range, he sends his regards...
Scientist does the same dmg as Sunflower in a 10 second time period. Scientist does less dmg over a 10 minute time period. Math has been laid out in another thread for viewing.
_______________________________
I know you are smarter than this reply.
Do I really need to point out the fact this information is irrelevant? The burst damage is what really counts here.
There isn't a single plant that will last 10 seconds vs a scientist at close range. The Sunflower won't last 3 seconds vs a scientist it will take 2 shots.When the Sunflower does 40 DPS (dealing 400 dmg over 10 seconds), and the Scientist does 40 DPS (200 dmg over 5 seconds), which one is doing more damage per second?
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Re: Ice Rose
Rhendyr
★★★★★ NOVICE
03-14-2016 07:47 AM - edited 03-14-2016 07:48 AM
ActiveMe4U2 wrote:
REPLYING TO:
Re: Ice Rose
Rhendyr
★★★★★ NOVICE
03-14-2016 07:02 AM
ActiveMe4U2 wrote:
Re: Ice Rose
JamesRivera88
★★★★ NOVICE
03-13-2016 07:52 PM - edited 03-13-2016 07:54 PM
She isn't supposed to be a terror with DPS, she is a support
_______________________
I was just talking to the scientist at close range, he sends his regards...
Scientist does the same dmg as Sunflower in a 10 second time period. Scientist does less dmg over a 10 minute time period. Math has been laid out in another thread for viewing.
_______________________________
I know you are smarter than this reply.
Do I really need to point out the fact this information is irrelevant? The burst damage is what really counts here.
There isn't a single plant that will last 10 seconds vs a scientist at close range. The Sunflower won't last 3 seconds vs a scientist it will take 2 shots.
When the Sunflower does 40 DPS (dealing 400 dmg over 10 seconds), and the Scientist does 40 DPS (200 dmg over 5 seconds), which one is doing more damage per second?
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The damage is obviously the same, I get your point. What I am trying to say is the battle between those two will last 3 seconds the most.
With that said, who will have the clear advantage?
The Sunflower has good steady damage but it needs time to build up, the scientist has a crazy burst at the first few seconds, the Sunflower will need time to build up, which most likely won't have. But I admit you do make a good point.It comes down to mobility, who seen who first, positioning, and if the cool down is up for warp or not, really. So, what it really comes down to isn't their dmg, it's the player skill, and the "luck of the draw" with cool downs, positioning and such, which to me, suggests, that at least damage-wise, those two are fairly balanced.
People are really quick to jump on the burst train, I mean it's easy to say the Scientist does more when you see bigger one hit numbers. I'm not saying this is you, but most wont ever fact check, and will just run off all willy nilly with conjecture, they then start spamming the forum with threads based on incomplete or incorrect information.
I've compared the Sunflower and Scientists raw dmg, and the new Rose and Engineers raw dmg, and am considering just doing a chart with all of their base classes dmg for easy comparison in hopes of maybe somehow dispelling some of those unfounded opinions.
