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Pheesley
6 years ago
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Imp and Z-mech primaries are bad

Imp and Z-mech lack damage in their primarys. As Imp it takes too long to kill SnapDragons, Chompers, and even 125 HP classes like Peashooter. Sneaking up on plants doesn't give you that much of an a...
  • Jacob2of3's avatar
    Jacob2of3
    6 years ago

    Finally someone said it.

     

    If you compare the dps of imp and mech to gw2 imp and mech then you can clearly see what you are talking about. Imp in gw2 had high recoil but in return one of the highest dps in the game. Mech had armor and was powerful but in return could not regen and you had to call it in at the right time or waste a cooldown. 

     

    In bfn this has been changed for the worse. Imps recoil is barely noticeable now and his damage is average. Imp has basically turned into a generalist with less hp. Mech has no armor, low damage for what it is, and their is no risk to when you can call it in.  

     

    Also like you mention getting a flank in bfn is barely rewarding. But in gw2 flanking with a imp gave you a head start usually coming out on top. Imp in his generalist isn't bad but with the small character selection he should be different from a generalist.  

     

    Suggestions for change:

     

    -Give imp his old primary back, High recoil but high dps

     

    -Mech needs more damage and armor like it had in gw2

     

    -Impkata should be replaced, its only good with a upgrade and still situational at best

     

    -Other things include: Explosive escape being a nuke, destroying it before the explosion, bionic bash comes out too slowly, and being invincible during mech call

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realitysquared
6 years ago
@Pheesley No offense but you and I must not be playing the same Imp.

In PvE, with the right upgrades and tactics, I can shred the Plant AI both in Ops and in the PvE skirmishes and battles.

PvP is, of course, more challenging but it’s still easy to be an Imp and be a force to be reckoned with on the battlefield and you don’t necessarily need to be a jumping lunatic to do it.

What level is your Imp and what upgrades are you using? For PvE you should definitely include Fearless- it dramatically changes how effective the Imp will be with the mobs which spawn.
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Pheesley
6 years ago

@realitysquared The upgrades I mainly use are vampiric, low life, arm day, and refreshing revive. I've also been experimenting with Speedy and focusing on upgrades that benefit Z-mech. I think Ripcord is really good but I haven't been using it.

I should clarify some things. I still do really well with Imp and have made it to the top of the team multiple times. But still, I just think the primary weapons are weak. Imp takes a little too long to kill. He's still usable, just doesn't quite have the firepower to justify getting in the enemy's face. (Why I use arm day).

I feel like Z-mech especially suffers from a weak primary. The primary just doesn't quite do enough damage to justify its quick quick heat build-up and being aggressive. Citrons, oaks, snapdragons, and chompers (without healing or shield) give Z-mech a lot of trouble simply because it takes too long to kill them.

  • mikepal19's avatar
    mikepal19
    6 years ago

    Some of the best people I've played against in pvp, mainly TT, are imps.   His primary is solid.  When i play imp, I mainly use his primary and his gravity special.   I consistently am in the top 1 to 3.  The mech I use when I can but I don't depend on it to get my kills.   Im ok with getting only 1 to 2 kills with it as I view it as free/bonus kills.  

    Buffing his primary is not necessary in the slightest as it will make him near OP.   You have to learn to maneuver with him and think of this mobility as a weapon.  And learn to good with THAT.   Once you can control his movement (elusiveness and evasion) then his primary weapon almost becomes a secondary thought.   If you run up on people and try to brute-strength your way to these kills,  then more than likely you will be disappointed. 

    • TheSprinter85's avatar
      TheSprinter85
      Hero
      6 years ago

      @Pheesley  I use Imp a lot of the time as a zombie, because despite his low damage, I really like his high rate of fire. Compared to other attack characters, his primary seems to dish pretty low damage but has lots of ammo and speed to make up for it. His mech's explosive escape and other abilities seem to really benefit the Imp as well! 🙂

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