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benn1nat0r
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5 years ago
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Interesting News (BfN Ads, BfN bundle, new PvZ toys)

Story #1 - BfN ads on Gamepass for PC

Apparently, BfN was featured in an ad for EA Play at the game awards. That doesn't mean anything, of course, as EA is know to have a desire to maximize profit. To include BfN had no costs attached to it, while it could make them some, so it makes sense. I still found it to be interesting.

The weirdness continues (the hypocrisy, too):

BfN I one of the frontrunner games for EA Play on Gamepass for PC. Boom.

I find this to be rather misleading. The game isn't being updated anymore, many promises made from the start were broken. Even now they are not going back on their promise to fix bugs, as the Wildflower & TV Head upgrades haven't returned yet and 80's can still fly over the map and get an unfair advantage. I believe BfN doesn't deserve the title of "high- quality PC game", either. The game might be great, but certainly not on PC. There are so many issues that have never been fixed on PC. The player base is tiny and they still have a message pop up saying they will improve the directx12 support, as it is still in development, which (now) is a lie.

Don't get me wrong, I love BfN and am convinced it deserves more recognition, but to me this is offensive. Marketing the game months after the cancellation, not allowing the team to finish nearly finished content, no news of a new PvZ shooter, ... Sigh

My guess is that Microsoft likes the game, as GW1 was xbox exclusive for the (back then) next gen xbox one for some time and has boss mode on that platform. Maybe they think it fills a gap in their line-up.

Story #2 - "Speed & Seed" bundle released

When opening the PSN store to check out new PS5 games, my interest was piqued by a bundle in the "new games" section. I couldn't believe what I saw. BfN bundled with the Need for speed: Hot Pursuit Remaster. WHY? Just to have a bad play on words? Do Need for speed and PvZ really share the same target audience? Am I missing something here? Is this the real life? 

Again, I feel like it is unethical to sell it as a full price title without a notice that it was a live service title, which has been dropped less than a year in, but I understand that a profit oriented company would like to sell a product, instead of pointing out its flaws. They could at least release the 99% finished Iceburg Lettuce to make this offer compelling, but nope

Side Note:

On steam, the bundle says it has crossplay. So apparently, a cheap Need for Speed Remaster was allowed to have cross play but a major entry in the PvZ franchise was not. Also, they should indicate that only 1 game of the bundle has cross play, not the other. this is just misleading.

Story #3 - New PvZ plushies incoming!

According to a website called ToyNews Online, a company achieved a deal with EA / PopCap to produce new PvZ plushies. I couldn't find another source confirming this and would like to know if it is true. if so, which PopCap is it referring to? Seattle or Vancouver? Will the toys include BfN Characters? Acorn? Or is this referring to the now cancelled version of PvZ, making this announcement obsolete? The passage below seems to talk about the "classic" PvZ game and mentioned EA will soon grant fans new PvZ content. Personally, I feel like saying EA is "granting" us new content is extremely arrogant, as they are simply releasing products we have to pay for and then they drop support after 9-10 months.

Quote from the site:

Plants vs. Zombies is a tower defense classic in which players pit their loyal plant squad against the zombie peril, fending off boss invasions and banding together with friends to help save their small town. With over 1.2 billion installs to date, the popular franchise is looking at granting its fans new adventures with future content releases.

“Plants vs. Zombies is a wildly popular video game franchise and we’re thrilled to be the licensed partner that gets to bring its characters to life in plush,” said TOMY’s Weyl. “Many of Club Mocchi- Mocchi-‘s most popular plush toys are characters and accessories from beloved video games, so we’re excited to bring a little piece of Plants vs. Zombies into gamers’ homes around the world.”

Retail Monster’s founder and CEO, Michael Connolly, added: “TOMY’s Club Mocchi- Mocchi- brand is renowned for its bespoke plush format, and we’re thrilled to delight Plants vs. Zombies fans with what will surely be an in-demand range of iconic plush characters.”

Happy Feastivus!


Sources:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PvZGardenWarfare/comments/kcfekp/its_there/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PvZGardenWarfare/comments/kdmevo/bfn_is_on_the_front_of_the_newly_released_ea_play/

https://www.toynews-online.biz/2020/11/04/tomy-bolsters-its-licensing-portfolio-with-sing-2-and-plants-vs-zombies-toy-lines/

PSN store

  • This is such a weird mix of glad they still admit it exists and irritation that more work and time should have been invested in it and they do this. I saw this on the Reddit too and it's still available on Steam as well as Origin. At the least we need those missing upgrades back even if I've come to dislike both swarm characters.

    The community on PC is small as you say but barring some serious issues with bugs (one the other day forced me to shut it down in task manager for example), it runs decently on PC with Dx12 (although my rig is decent which helps). Reading here and on Reddit, it's worse on console with lag as I have zero lag when I play, barring internet issues.

    Speaking of GW1 Boss Mode, it was never all that popular as it was dropped for GW2, but it was nice and relaxing at times when I wanted to play but not mix it up in PvP as much.

    This bit especially piques my interest: '...the popular franchise is looking at granting its fans new adventures with future content releases...' We need a new shooter so much right now. I'm enjoying bouncing between the games but I have everything unlocked in GW1 and 2 and only need to reach max rank in BfN which has become rather tedious to be sure as I'm GM 3 on all characters and they feel like such an empty grind.

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  • This is such a weird mix of glad they still admit it exists and irritation that more work and time should have been invested in it and they do this. I saw this on the Reddit too and it's still available on Steam as well as Origin. At the least we need those missing upgrades back even if I've come to dislike both swarm characters.

    The community on PC is small as you say but barring some serious issues with bugs (one the other day forced me to shut it down in task manager for example), it runs decently on PC with Dx12 (although my rig is decent which helps). Reading here and on Reddit, it's worse on console with lag as I have zero lag when I play, barring internet issues.

    Speaking of GW1 Boss Mode, it was never all that popular as it was dropped for GW2, but it was nice and relaxing at times when I wanted to play but not mix it up in PvP as much.

    This bit especially piques my interest: '...the popular franchise is looking at granting its fans new adventures with future content releases...' We need a new shooter so much right now. I'm enjoying bouncing between the games but I have everything unlocked in GW1 and 2 and only need to reach max rank in BfN which has become rather tedious to be sure as I'm GM 3 on all characters and they feel like such an empty grind.

  • benn1nat0r's avatar
    benn1nat0r
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @Iron_Guard8 I would have liked to mark your post as the solution, but the button isn't working. I pretty much agree with everything you mention. It feels extremely weird. On the one side I'm happy BfN is getting some attention (and maybe more players as a result), but on the other, I feel somewhat betrayed, as they have delivered the content promised at launch and the game only now receives some marketing, months after the cancellation.

    On a side note, DX12 isn't working well for me. When activated, it minimizes my game window every 20 seconds and has some graphical glitches. My PC should be capable of running it, Task Manager says my GPU and CPU aren't being utilized much. It is working well with DX11, so there isn't much point in complaining. 

    As you said, the major thing is: "the popular franchise is looking at granting its fans new adventures with future content releases"

    I couldn't find more confirmation on this deal between EA and this toy manufacturer, so I'm skeptical. It would be weird for this (to me unknown) company to announce new PvZ games coming soon. Considering PopCap Seattle said new PvZ experiences would be announced soon, I'm guessing they're referring to the RPG type PvZ prototype shown months ago.

    Should I try asking if this can be verified on the EA general forum? The chances are slim, but maybe a community manger could try to get confirmation from a team associated with this type of stuff?  

  • Iron_Guard8's avatar
    Iron_Guard8
    Legend
    5 years ago

    No idea if that would help. They do like keeping these things intentionally vague as we saw with the unfortunate situation with BfN. It may be that the toy company has access to some information we don't and that was an allusion to that in the statement, if was just them to drum up sales of the new toys, or something else (like EA trying to give us tidbits to keep us engaged). 

    I'll be looking out for a new PC/Console PvZ game that's for sure.

    Edit: as far as the DX12 issues, it's hard to say as some people have massive problems getting BfN running while others (like myself) have very few problems. I had one friend who played briefly that had to task manager out every time he played as he got stuck in a black screen when exiting. At launch a lot of people had serious issues, the technical section of the BfN forums was not a happy place back then.

  • TheSprinter85's avatar
    TheSprinter85
    Hero
    5 years ago

    Indeed this does seem like interesting news!

    So, as stated, I wonder what EA means by new future content. Along with most others, I would really like to see another PvZ Shooter in the future. Additionally, I wonder if that message means that we might get some updates on some PvZ Games currently out. Well, I look foreword to hear any more news about the franchise.

    @benn1nat0r I mean you could try posting in the General Questions and see if that will help, I will not stop you, also I will accept @Iron_Guard8‘s solution for you.

  • I did some googling and came across Tomy's U.S. website - and found their "mocchi" page

    https://us.tomy.com/mocchi-mocchi

    It looks like they are licensed to sell toys for lots of well known brands/franchises - splatoon, mario, kirby, animal crossing...

    I think this is great for PvZ brand exposure to have their own plush toys sitting next to those of other very well known brands/franchises. If it goes well, it's a good revenue stream and perhaps a way to inject more life back into the franchise.

    They probably should have done this awhile ago though? If not years ago, a month or so before Christmas? 

    I'm curious too which PvZ iteration they will connected...i'd be curious to see what BFN plushies would look like. I don't know why they didn't do something like vinyl toys either. The "glossy" design and look of the characters in BFN makes it seem like an obvious choice.

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