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- @Gormey Your heartfelt post really moves me. Have fun playing gw2!
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@Gormey I do wish they dealt with the cheaters more quickly and harshly. I haven't played much GW1 lately, but some Origin friends have been. Barring that one cheater I reported recently GW2 has been going well though, even Sunday morning I was able to get some decent matches in the portal (TT of course, I miss the days when you could get anything and especially taco bandits from GW1, originally I was mixed mode most of the time) without the hacker problem rearing its ugly head.
I'd have to mess with my setup to get a console rigged up though, I haven't had one since the PS1, N64, and Sega Saturn days. With or without cheaters BfN PvP really just never felt as fun as the 2 GW games, and unlike the time where we capped TT at 8v8 for BfN and it was awful, even 6v6 on GW2 or GW1 TT plays fine, and usually can get at least 10v10. But I know you vastly prefer TV (do you play much vanquish confirmed?) and it's easier to get more variety of matches on consoles. This is why they need crossplay for a new game and to do a much better job with the hacker/cheater problem than they have to date. That was one thing that BfN got right as I never saw an actual hacker in the game.
@Iron_Guard8 Yes I play vanquish confirmed when there are challenges and even that has full lobbies on GW2 it's incredible.
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I have also started playing GW2 again, as I wanted to check if the reports of a healthy player base are correct. I have encountered way more toxicity than in BfN and don't enjoy the experience nearly as much. BUT. I realized why some people keep on playing it. The sticker collection system really draws you in and ops can be a lot of fun. That doesn't mean BfN Ops is bad, they just focus on different things. GW2 ops = action at every difficulty level; BfN ops = relaxing, play pvp for action.
I have to admit, I have gone from outright hating it to somewhat enjoying it at times, now that I have unlocked Ice Pea. Ice Pea was my favorite character in PvZ. I even bought him in PvZ 2, even though he is pretty underpowered in that game. Unlocking him in GW2 was the first time I ever smiled while playing that game, while I'm very happing playing BfN most of the time. To summarize: All PvZ shooters are good and hating someone for having preferences is bad. I just dislike GW2 a lot, due to things like Toxic Brainz, Imp Punt, most z-Mechs, Super Brainz in general, Deadbeard,...
- @benn1nat0r I totally understand your point here! GW2 has loads of cool replayability, while BfN does not as much, it is still such a fun game in many ways. The fact that it is quicker to rank up in BfN is quite cool, especially if you would like to achieve max rank in that game, it is much easier to do so (barring the Grandmaster ranks). BfN could have become such a cool game if it got more support.
I really like both of the PvZ Shooters and will continue to play them often. How do you notice toxicity in GW2?Certain characters in GW2 are definitely unbalanced; especially the detonation characters and toxic brainz and GW2 could use at least one more bug squashing pass. That being said, even though I'm done with everything in GW2 it's more fun for me to play than BfN now that all I have left in BfN is to get GM5 on all the characters which is such a boring grind that I almost have to force myself to get at least 1 level every day.
As for toxicity, you're either insanely unlucky or it's just the fact that it's so much harder on PC to do that. You can taunt (and I do see that but rarely) in the vanquish cam, but you directly message people on PC unless they're friends so my time is largely decent. In BfN I see a poop emote or something of that nature quite often, easily 5x as often as GW2 and the time difference is huge; I have 2600 hours in GW2 and 733 in BfN, and most of my BfN time is in the free roam zones.
I do like that BfN's anti-cheat means I've never seen a hacker, that's a huge plus for certain.
I also stand by my earlier statements that BfN has such massive potential to be absolutely amazing but suffers from a poorly ran economy, lack of characters, performance issues on some set ups (especially console lag from what I've seen posted), missing features, and them abandoning the game all made something that should be fantastic into something that while still can be fun, just isn't as good as it could have and should have been.
