Hi guys, in today's post, I wanted to share a video that I watched on YouTube just before - rumours of a GW3 coming out. There is not much proof at this point, it is simply speculation.
More information found in Redhead Gaming's video below:
@TheSprinter85 Unfortunately, this is just a typical clickbait video. Even though he does mention this probably means nothing in the video, he intentionally designed the title to be catchy and give false hope. I mean I can't blame him for trying to get attention, after all that's what YouTube is about, but I still think it is especially bad to do considering the franchise is in such a bad state and the community has severely been disappointed by the cancellation of BfN and the team is working on a new game (I've seen some more "evidence" that suggests it really is the new skate game they are working on).
As @Cameroid07 said, it is probably just because BfN was called GW3 during development (very likely as the data miners have found text strings calling the game Gw3 in the files)
And here's a post on reddit confirming it is a "bug".
@Cameroid07 and @benn1nat0r I seriously appreciate you bringing this up. I actually saw another video from Redhead Gaming ("Hi Guys, in Today's Video" ... ! 🙌) regarding the fact that a PvZ Developer confirmed it was a bug. Oh well everyone, appreciate all the help.
I saw the first video and as I posted there, I want a new game for sure, but this is too little to go on, and then it got removed anyway. I do hope that all the attention means we are getting a new shooter in future!
Here is Zeroxfusionz's take on whether more PvZ Shooters will come out or not:
His take makes sense but big companies like EA will move people around without much rhyme or reason, or have people work outside their expertise. I mean look at Anthem; a shooter made by a team known for their RPGs was a very odd choice to put it mildly.
BfN obviously didn't do well, but both GW games obviously did. They may be wanting to let BfN fade before working on a new game, or they may have a different team working on a new shooter already (which would be faster than BfN took if they build on GW2 as the core engine already works well, whereas when they made BfN they had to start at zero), they may have different groups getting other stuff done first and then they're going to make a new shooter, or it may indeed be the end for the shooters, but I have no desire to see that last one.
Like many have said before, just giving us a GW3 that is GW2 with more stuff (and fixing its issues like the detonation characters and some lingering bugs) would be fine with me. I'd be one for a PvZ version of Warframe with more MP PvP focus mixed with the PvE stuff. This is my favorite franchise for gaming and we need a new shooter!
@Iron_Guard8 Using GW2 as the foundation just wouldn't make sense. BfN's design is way closer to style of the PvZ franchise. They should reuse all of the models from BfN and add damage drop-off to make the hardcore players focused on it happy. The more casual crowd will always prefer BfN's sytle over GW's art style. I know many people who never player the Gw games because the art style felt wrong. They told me it neither looked as joyful as the original PvZ, nor did it have a consistent realistic art style. Some characters look realistic and others look like weird clay models.
They have refined BfN's core mechanics so much, they just need to add damage drop-off to make the self proclaimed "fans" who only trashed BfN happy.
I know my comment sounds stupid, but I felt like I needed to say it. There are so many 13-16 and 20-30 old males wo just insulted everyone who liked BfN.
BfN's design is more appealing to the mainstream, but it was never noticed by most target audiences because it had no marketing at all.
So the only people who knew about it were the people who played the GW series. And that wasn't good. The franchise has a child friendly style, and the audience of gw was mainly made of 20-30 year old guys. They made BfN's look and feel more reflective of the for all ages and appropriate for younger players target group, which the gw fans didn't like. Sure, there were many who rightfully pointed out the flaws, but most trashed BfN from the beginning without ever having played it. Even now I see gw fans scream NightCap and Oak are op when that hasn't been the case for what, 10-11 months now?
As for variants: I see many people say they were the thing that made the gw games unique. I disagree with that, but can understand some of the arguments. I think they could combine the upgrade system and the variants into a "build your own variant" system. You could chose a base damage type for every character:
I might make a post explaining my ideas for a sequel in more detail later 🙂
The only thing we really know is that most people of the BfN team have moved to other projects.
As seen in thevideo, Justin Wiebe is working on something else. Shaun Laker is now working on Apex legends, alongside a few other former BfN devs. Some are working for other companies now (I have only seen 2 BfN devs who are not working for BfN anymore state that publicly)
What remains of the BfN team appears to be working on the new skate game.
So if a new PvZ shooter is being made, it would have to be made in 2-3 years, after skate is finished, or a new team would have to work on it.
I highly doubt EA has any intentions of making another PvZ shooter.
I fear we will have to wait for like 10 years for a studio to revive this beloved franchise, like Motive is doing with Skate now.
Why couldn't the PvZ community do what the Skate community did?
Skate seems like such a niche thing, BUT: The members of the community "commented this into life". This is what was said during the reveal teaser. I whish the PvZ community would stop dividing itself and start spamming every EA post everywhere with "We want a new PvZ shooter", just like the skate community did.
Another thing we have to consider:
Timing.
The new consoles are around the corner. The best thing to do would be updating BfN again. if EA committed to it and marketed it heavily, it could have success. There aren't many next gen games at launch. A boat load of indie devs had their games become successes when the switch launched, because there were so few competing games. Making a sequel would take a long time, so updating BfN would make more sense, especially considering they have content for months sleeping in the files.
They should:
I know this won't happen, they asked for feedback on the cancellation and apparently decided it wasn't enough. Especially the whole "no cross play" situation is bad. It appears to be a lot of work to add it. I just think BfN need to be updated for the franchise not to die. I know PopCap Seattle said they are still committed to milking it, uhh I mean releasing new PvZ experiences, but think about it: There is no PvZ game with active content support. They said they would announce something soon (probably the RPG), but no mainline PvZ is in sight. PvZ 3 is being reimagined and that will take some time, PvZ 2 is only seeing new plants added and Penny's Pursuit has many bugs. The game hasn't gotten a new world since 2016. Around that time, concept art for PvZ 3 was leaked. So what were they up to in all those years?
