Plants are not weak

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@MetalliXsuicide wrote:

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@Rhendyr wrote:

It's like the Plant players don't realize that Plants are centered around higher defense, better healing, higher health (on average) more defensive abilities. They think because they don't do the exact same dmg with a base attack, that they are then weaker, even though, again, they have more defensive abilities and higher (on average) health pools with more abilities that neutralize their enemies (more Crowd Control). 

If you match Plants dmg up with Zombies, you just made the team with higher hp's, higher mobility/speed, more crowd control, and higher healing have equal damage... What do you whining fools think would then happen to balance?

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Plants have higher health pools? It's about the same. Zombies more if you count the Imp Mech

Plants do not have higher speed, except for pea shooter but engineers have jackhammer. 

Zombies can peak from behind walls and shoot but plants need to be more exposed.

CC :  Plants - Rose and citron  Zombies - Engineer and Imp (soldier too if you count the smoke bomb)

Defense capabilities... the cactus wall  same as all-star's wall. But zombies also have things that mitigate damage while dealing damage. Plants don't except for citrus.

There are no plant or zombie players, everyone plays as both but its unbalance when it's easier to win as one side as opposed to the other.

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No plants vs zombies people? That's laughable. The majority of those whining about plants played Plants almost exclusively, and still try to, the ones speaking reason tend to be those who went back and forth. 

Plants have, on average 4 health points more, the disparity was greater before the Imp's hp increase (Rose's decrease was offset by Corn's increase.) the Mech argument is moot, it dies so quickly, anyone who lets a mech be a factor deserves to lose (I've solo killed so many mechs it's ridiculous), plus it's an ability, I didn't count Citron's hp increase from his shield, even though it's cool down is a fraction of the Mechs. If one is going to count the Mech, then they must count Citron's shield, and count the +25 however many times they can use it during the same cool down as the Mech for fairness.  

The speed is hard to prove or disprove, it's always felt to me that when I played Plants, their natural speed was much higher on a whole, but, they had fewer gap closers. In my mind, that makes them better suited for defense. 

You want to compare Crowd Control?

Plants: 

EM Peach
Spin Dash
Time Snare
Goatify
Goop
Spikeweed

Zombies:

Sonic Grenade
Turbo Twister
Gravity Grenade

Smoke Bomb doesn't count, if it were a true/real Blind, then it would. Or, if it made your cross hairs stay white instead of turning red when on a target, then it would. But as is, it "blinds" the Zombis as much as it "blinds" the plants, so if you insist it be counted as CC, it would apply to both sides. 

Plants have higher healing, better defensive abilities (more things to place or toss to go boom or snare/slow down/stop), more CC, and now only slightly better overall HP's and I still believe higher overall natural movement speed. Zombies deal more dmg, and have more gap closers. 

What a load of B/S the plants are weak and it was hidden due to the Rose problem but now this has been sorted the bigger issue has shown.
And please remember everyone this is a game for new players and children who dont want to play tacticly this was never the case in GW1 nor should it be in GW2 this should be a game of fun. Any newbies coming along now are going to get spluttered by the zombies due to weakness in characters and not been able to play or want to play tacticly with a underpowered weak first character.
Kids wanna play the game and shoot around and have fun you can not do this now if you choose the plants in GW2, a few nights ago I was playing gw2 and there was a young child playing as you could hear mic talk In between games I'm currently aged 42 and ranked 130 and played gw1 for 3 years and now gw2, he was ranked just 17 whilst playing my rock bea at elite level he had more kills out of me that night than I had the whole game I played tacticly but game play was utter pointless even my son who now brilliant at close compat tactics tried in the next game as a plant and got absolutely smashed time and time and time again and I will tell you it's absolutely no fun what so ever seeing a young child plast his way through the game and getting top leader board with s huge amount of kills. With a low skill rank and having limited characters.

The plants are unbalanced and I would say the pea and sunflowers are the worst currently as I said before Rose masked a bigger problem with some of the plant charters not all mind and now rose is sorted the bigger issue is shown. Secondly if plant characters that are ok in power wise at the moment are not used played with in the game session you will then have characters who are weak being played with in the game then the problem is even worse and zombies can have easy pickings.

This is why zombies are masters now if you have a a game with a team of 2 supper brain 2 allstars and 2 scientist, the game is over already.