Plants are WEAK on offense
Played some turf take over. There were zoologist, marine biologist, and chemist literally hiding in plant spawn and the plants couldnt even leave their spawn. If you did manage to sneak by them, an e...
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There are many young children who play play gw2, this con be confirmed listening to mic noise in between games. Trying to tell and give the understanding to these young players that they need to play tacticly is going to be impossible, this is the reason GW1 worked so well is you don't need to work in that manor and kids and adults of any age can pick up the game and play either way and succeeded well in the game as all characters are balanced.
Gw2 is going to fail for a lot of kids and adults who were excited to have the game, in its current state of play gw2 going to be impossible for the first time player and children to pick up and succeed , this will be the downfall of the game as you need new players to make a profit to then able to improve the game.
The Rose issue just masked a bigger problem in that it covered up the limited success you will have as a plant. Rose now nerfed and so the bigger plant issue has been shown.
Gw2 is going to fail for a lot of kids and adults who were excited to have the game, in its current state of play gw2 going to be impossible for the first time player and children to pick up and succeed , this will be the downfall of the game as you need new players to make a profit to then able to improve the game.
The Rose issue just masked a bigger problem in that it covered up the limited success you will have as a plant. Rose now nerfed and so the bigger plant issue has been shown.
I find the plants to be weakest in Herbal Assault.
You bring up a very good point about the Scientist being OP atm. He has to be one the strongest supports I have seen and trumps the Sun Flower in ever way. I really don't know what he's supposed to be atm. He was like this in GW1 as well, warp in kill, warp out use healing station or heal ball on himself.
However Soldier's over shadowed him in that game, especially the Super Commando.
In this game he's alot more known now to be absolutely devastating.
Since getting the game, my son and I have hardly ever bothered playing online at all. We either play in the backyard battleground bc he just likes the new characters, or we play GW1. We don't feel this game is balanced at all. And not sure why, but all the characters just feel painfully slow while still managing to make the battlefield feel hectic and out of control. I hope they eventually get a hand on the balance issues, but it's felt so far out there since launch that I'm not getting my hopes up. I hope they at least make it so we can do the campaign in split screen so my son and I can get a little more use out of this broken game.
Rhendyr is going to make a spreadsheet, WOOP DE DOO EVERYONE...
I might make one too, just to record all the comments from players who claim plants are fine, and upload it after they balance things.
In the heat of the moment, sometimes it's hard to counter argue someone with mature facts when all they are doing is hurling abuse. You cannot compare DPS from a Shotgun to a Machine gun, all you guys will now say we'll stay at range and shoot, well that's not going to work out well is it? Pirate beats Cactus and Soldier is range as well. Oh wait, even the supposedly close range character Superhero has one of the most devastating range shots there is!
Zombies have so much burst up close, and so much power at range.
I still don't believe it's true. Having said that I'm sure someone mentioned about the maps in the original being more open than they are now (which they are). This, along with the plants more defensive abilities, helped keep the game balanced. So last night I played pretty much exclusively plants, and turf takeover (I'm assuming that's the gamemode most people are playing).
Great White North:
Plants won pretty much ALL the time. In one game we had around 6 chompers to counter all the super brain / all stars. On that occasion they didn't get past the third cap point.
Zomburbia:
Ugh. This is where the close confines of the spawn and exits to the first cap put plants at a major disadvantage. Plants didn't win any last night. I'm putting it down to both map design and very bad counter picks in the games I played (sunflowers as front line, cactus just trying to drone from spawn). I know from playing it, that once past the first 2 points it is much, much easier and the ending one is a piece of cake, getting there is a problem though. You'll need alot of corn, citron, peas and chompers to even attempt it.
Moon Base Z:
Seems pretty even so far. I'd say the hardest cap points are the 2nd/3rd. If you pass them you should win.
Seeds of Time:
Another fairly even map after the patch, BUT it would seem that if zombies can get past the 2nd cap point you will find it much harder to contain them. I've seen this go down to the last second a few times, completely unsure who was going to win. I'd say it favours zombies slightly.
Bar zomburbia it doesn't seem all that out of whack to me. I'd be quite worried that any buff to plants might just be the tipping point that puts them in front again. I think it would be better to alter zomburbia as this is the one that seems to be a major problem.
Personally I'd love to see Main Street again. That would be amazing.
