Please allow us to bank 4,000 tickets.
Hi. I love the events, and the card rewards. I love the daily challenges, and their rewards. But you are demanding WAY too much of our time to achieve these reward tiers. I play at least 10 other ...
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@AphidOfDeath that sucks... They should fix that issue. That being said, between the videos providing 700 gems, and the free card you get from daily challenges (and pack)... You could play for 14 wins a week. (That's once per morning, once at night) and net 2100 tickets. Then use the left over 200 free gems from the videos to cover the final cost of the last card... Is that really so much to ask in lieu of providing another route for free or spending a little bit support their efforts?
You can NOT honestly say that I don't want them to make money on their game, NOR can you say that I feel that we should get everything for free. I mean you CAN and are saying that, HOWEVER, I did mention that I have dropped over $600.00 on this game since the day of its official release. Please don't sit there and put words in my mouth when I am making my points very concisely, and clearly.
That said, how about this:
Early access bundles=$19.99
Weekly bundles (new cards)=$19.99
Packs bundles $39.99 this week and I believe last with PHENOMENAL 20 pack bonuses
Gem purchases
New set coming which means another $200-$300 for me that week...
And whatever else they want to throw at us...
The issue is NOT about money for me, it never was. I have explained this several times already.
I am making the recommendation as a quality of life option for we, the players to have more flexibility in terms of the amount of time-sink that this game currently requires to obtain the event cards.
I LOVE this game. But as it currently stands I feel like I am being forced to log in to play to obtain these cards, or open the pocketbook every week... ON TOP OF an already $20.00 a week purchase that I currently already make in keeping ahead on the other event or new cards... and with another new full set and new heroes on the horizon...
And as an additional side note: I don't think that the request for tickets to be 20 for winning, and 5 for a loss will hurt anyone either. How many trolls have we all played that just sit there and think it's fun to extend the turn timers just to see if the impatient players will concede? That is UNACCEPTABLE... so receiving 5 tickets for a loss makes that situation SLIGHTLY more bearable...
And also, dropping gems for ads from 10 to 5 when they still receive the same ad revenue? That stings a little... and more than half the time it doesn't even work...
That said, how about this:
Early access bundles=$19.99
Weekly bundles (new cards)=$19.99
Packs bundles $39.99 this week and I believe last with PHENOMENAL 20 pack bonuses
Gem purchases
New set coming which means another $200-$300 for me that week...
And whatever else they want to throw at us...
The issue is NOT about money for me, it never was. I have explained this several times already.
I am making the recommendation as a quality of life option for we, the players to have more flexibility in terms of the amount of time-sink that this game currently requires to obtain the event cards.
I LOVE this game. But as it currently stands I feel like I am being forced to log in to play to obtain these cards, or open the pocketbook every week... ON TOP OF an already $20.00 a week purchase that I currently already make in keeping ahead on the other event or new cards... and with another new full set and new heroes on the horizon...
And as an additional side note: I don't think that the request for tickets to be 20 for winning, and 5 for a loss will hurt anyone either. How many trolls have we all played that just sit there and think it's fun to extend the turn timers just to see if the impatient players will concede? That is UNACCEPTABLE... so receiving 5 tickets for a loss makes that situation SLIGHTLY more bearable...
And also, dropping gems for ads from 10 to 5 when they still receive the same ad revenue? That stings a little... and more than half the time it doesn't even work...
- It's a forum, my friend. Don't get butt hurt because w don't agree with you. You made your points, i made counter points. I stand by my statement that if 21 wins a week and watching ads for all the gems that week (which combined will net you all event cards for the week) is too much, You're being selfish. 21 wins a week... 3 wins a day INCLUDING the daily challenge.
If you thought you'd just get high fives and mommy hugs coming here... Well, welcome to the internet.
Btw... You can earn the early access cards about two weeks later as event cards... Just fyi since you're trying to use event cards as a reason you don't want to spend money on event cards... Maybe if you actually read the posts instead of glossing through for what you think are personal attacks you'd realize they aren't asking much.
Other than that, I'm done here. If you can't handle a friendly debate and get snippy whenever anyone challenges your ideas, you're not worth the time.
Good luck with your entitled complaining! the entitlement lately IS kinda crazy
- @Clarent
1)For someone who plays the game since it was released (1 year ago), I'm quite amazed you didn't realize the event cards went down to 1,200 tickets per cards. Hence, banking 4,000 tickets...?
2)Priorities. You play 10 other games, yet you want to have the same advantages of players playing only 1 game and spending time on it. The formula is quite simple: it's time vs money. You either spend one or the other. You say money isn't the issue. So what are you complaining about exactly?
3)As Daanill and others mentioned, it's pretty easy to get the 4 cards. Let's do a quick calculation...
15min/day on the weekly challenge = 1 card.
For the remaining cards, you need 8 wins (1200/150). Let's say it takes 15min average for a win (time for 1win/1lose). For 1 card, you need 2 hours of actual play.
In total, you need ~7h45/week to win all 4 cards, so just over 1h/day.
If you cannot afford to come back every 4hrs, which is understandable, you can use 20 gems to recharge the ticket boost.
15min of ads/day will give you 100gems. Let's assume you'll get 3 "free" recharge a day, that's 8.
Grand total, including watching ads, is 8hr30/week.
This is NOT that much. If you think so, go back to 2).
It's a pity because your idea to be able to bank 2 cards worth of tickets is good. Sometimes, life has others plans for you and eats up all your time.
However, the reasons you put forward to justify it were all wrong... - I love how people use the internet as an excuse to be snarky... "it's the Internet, get used to it" rather than just not employing the behavior of being kind... WOW.
OK... so what you're telling me, after all of that nonsense and MESS... is my idea is GOOD?
THEN WHY NOT just enhance the good idea!!!? LOL!
Who cares what my reasons are? If the IDEA has merit ? Can't we just focus on the idea!?
That's like saying I invented the ability to turn water into liquid fuel, solving the world's energy problems, but not using it because my reasons for creating that process/discovery were wrong...!?
And the third or fourth time someone sticks on I play more than a single mobile game... AGAIN, WHO CARES what the time constraints were!? Would it be better if I said I do mission work for Africa? Would my reasons be ok then?
Sighhhhhhhh....
THE IDEAS:
-Allow us to bank 2,400 tickets( better?)
-20 tickets for a win 5 for a loss
-bring the 10 gems back, instead of 5
CAN WE JUST debate my ideas? - Bank 2,400 is a good idea. I support it. I would even be happy with only 1,200.
The 10gems/ad will only happen if players stop watching ads. As long as they keep watching them for 5 gems, there is no incentive for the devs to change it. Even for 2-3 gems, many would still watch them. I personally went from watching 20/day to 5-6/week.
5 gems for a defeat has already been discussed and it is not a good idea. It would encourage bad players to just concede on turn 1 to get easy 5 tickets. If it can be implemented only when the game goes until the end (or at least turn 6/7), why not.
Happy? - You're the only one being snarky, and because we disagreed. 21 wins a week. If that's to much for you, you don't deserve to keep up (for free). YOU CAN GET TWO OF EACH EVENT CARD WITHOUT EVER PLAYING A SINGLE PERSON!!
In done being nice to you. You've been rude to everyone who disagrees.
One more snide remark, i have Andy take care of your thread.
If you wanna discuss this like an adult, fine, but you've been rude to everyone presenting counter arguments. Grow up. you idea only benefit financially for players, not developers. And if developers can not sustain financially, then this entire game will be shut down for good.
that's my point, and i do feel shame of you for never understand what it feels to be a developer.
- Daalnnii
Who are you to tell me anything?
I presented my ideas, and my reasons, and you have done nothing but judge me (incorrectly I might add) and personally attack me based on my reasons.
When the reasons really don't matter so much as the ideas themselves.
If you scroll through this entire thread and read your responses, and then mine to you and others I think anyone will see that.
So for whatever the reason, You have been upset, and then you come on here and publicly threaten me? Why? I'm simply responding to what you have decided to personally directed at me. And if you feel the need to get Andy and kill the thread that's fine. We can then involve Pop Cap/EA customer service and go from there.
People have a right to communicate their ideas and not be attacked for them...
And when the idea comes from someone who's spent close to a grand on their game... one would think that they would at least HEAR what I have to say without attacking me and calling me a narcissistic and other things, over something so simple as an idea.
If ANYONE should be upset here, it should be me, as you JUST THREATENED me, for absolutely ZERO REASON.
Have a good day sir. I disagree with the idea of banking tickets. The way it currently works, makes the player play the game every day if they want to get those event cards for free. They go online and play a few matches, complete their quest and watch some ads while they at it.
Why I disagree is: If it was allowed to bank tickets, players will no longer have to login every day. They can just forget about the game for a day. Which means they won't go online, play matches, complete quest and what might be possible the important reason of all; they won't watch their ads on which the game makes money off of.
Sure, there will be people that still play it for the gems but the amount of people will be drastically lowered. Heck, there might even be people complaining that the game doesn't offer enough free gems while they aren't playing themselves, BECAUSE the game allowed them to forget and take a day off. If it wasn't for the event cards I wasn't playing the game every day and I wouldn't have gained those free gems from quests and ads which I used for Galactic Gardens packs.
The idea of earning tickets when you lose is a bad idea and will be abused. You can just concede or disconnect the first turn when you start the battle and repeat.
Increasing the tickets isn't necessary either as you can currently easily earn all four copies just by playing and if needed spend your earned gems towards boosts or flat out buying the cards. Just like a few people mentioned already.
- The problem is not everyone has the time to play this game every single day. Sure login and grab the free gems, burn the daily event and then log out. Your reasoning isolates a very marginal and select group of people that would do what you are saying.
And, as stated previously... to bank the tickets one still has to play...
essentially the idea would work like this: we are allowed to bank only 2 cards worth of tickets... if you think about that, that actually inflate the server population. Because everyone's banking tickets.... and not everyone would be doing their playing at the same time... so therefore, it increases population, not decreases.
You log in, you burn your two tickets worth and grab two of the event cards... still have to refill the bank if you want that convenience next week, so you still are playing the same number of games every week, if not more....
Why would anyone concede a match as you are saying? I just don't see that. Because, if I don't refill... I cannot have the convenience for the next week.
It's a fantastic idea, that doesn't negatively impact the game, actually... it enhances the experience because allows us to schedule our play based on our schedules. - This is just food for thought... What about the players who do play every day? Those who are dedicated, and trying to get ahead by playing? Should they not be rewarded? Should they not get more stuff than those who choose to spend their time doing other things?
But when do people have time to bank tickets? I think that would be during the weekends. But they can't bank tickets if they haven't collected all four event cards that week and like you said: not everyone has time to play the game every day. This means you've to collect them within 4-5 days and let me tell you this; for me it takes at least 6 days to collect all four and I've enough time to play every time my boost is ready.
But lets say you collected all four copies before Saturday and you start grinding tickets, I do believe the population will rise during the weekends, like you said. But what will players do when they've little time on other days to play PvZ Heroes and already have the max. amount of tickets in the bank? They don't have to play the game and can skip a day or more which decreases the population drastically, which is what I meant when I mentioned in my previous post.
The game wants the amount of players to be evenly spread throughout the week so you can easily find a match. If the game allows people to follow their own schedule, then that would make a disbalance in the matchmaking, which already takes a very long time sometimes.
This is why it is important that we keep things balanced and why I disagree with your idea. What I mentioned about conceding or disconnecting on purpose was about receiving tickets when you lose, I think you misunderstood that bit.
But still, if you've enough time to get the tickets before the weekends, do you really need a banking system? And if you can't, then you won't be able to get them before the weekend and you won't be able to grind for tickets to bank.
- You would be rewarded. If you play every day you are banking your tickets faster than everyone else. That means that at your convenience, and for your convenience; you get to choose where and when you would spend your bank and knock out two event cards. Then, since you are playing everyday, you fill up your bank again faster. Also, it helps the community, and the game as a whole, because you are playing even more often... so increased population=faster queue times.
- A very interesting point Islar74. Let me attempt to sell you:
After you have acquired your 4 cards for the week, let's say you did it in 5-6 days. This allows for 1-2 days to bank tickets for that week. Now let's also assume that you don't have a lot of free time like you said:
After you have acquired your cards, there are still ways to bank tickets. The easiest way would be the plant and zombie missions, if you haven't already completed them... if you have then this idea would require the developers to do 2 easy alterations:
1. After all 4 cards are acquired on the account, still allow the acquisition of tickets.
2. Start the bank cap the bank at 2,400 tickets.
It's an easy fix: all they have to do is that. Now in the event that say, you were to burn your bank at the onset of the event card week to grab 2 right at the get-go then the bank wouldn't be enabled until you have acquired your last 2 cards...
And this, again HELPS not just the players, but the developers:
HOW:
When you have your 4-cards you still have to fill your bank... not only does it get more people playing more often at different times: BUT you would still be able to pay your 20 gems to refill the boost to fill your bank faster. That's added income to the developers!!! Or at least the slugging off of the additional ad-watching gems...
When you sit down and really think about this idea, it helps everyone.
It helps the hardcore players because they acquire their event cards faster than anyone else.
It helps the time-crunched players that really want to play but some weeks they have a lot more time than others.
It helps EVERYONE by throwing more players into the population at different times.
And lastly:
It helps the developers because the servers are more populated, and people are going to spend 20-gems here and there to get a quick 150 tickets in their banks. - So... They get tickets faster? Why do they care about banking tickets? They're playing every day. I mean, if you want to be able to take a week off from playing and still get your cards, do you feel it's fair that them playing every day only lets them bank a currency they're not likely to use faster? That's kind of trivializing what they do for the game. "You maxed the currency bank you'll never use because play every day! You took the week off and got all the event cards!" Nope, that doesn't seem fair... Not much incentive for them to play every day, is there?
There comes a point where you have to understand that they should and will have more cards (rewards worth playing for) than you, unless you choose to pay to keep up. Do you know someone who doesn't benefit from this idea? Me. If I want all four copies of an event card without spending gems ('cause I can't watch ads to get them for free, so those shinies are really precious to me), then I must win at least 3 multiplayer games every day (though not consecutively as I have to wait for a four-hour refresh on the booster), complete all seven challenge missions, and then win three more multiplayer games with boost or gather a smattering of tickets as I complete quests.
And I think that @Clarent1975's idea is fantastic for those who can use it.
First, despite the post's title, the proposed banked amount has been dropped to 2400 tickets, two event cards. You don't get the two event cards for free as you must still earn them. Want to get next week's event cards as quickly as possible? Play hard this week to bank those tickets! (I'd also like to suggest that banked tickets are immediately applied to a new week's event card... can't skip out of any less than stellar cards. 😉)
@Islar74 raises an excellent point on whether banking would impact the number of players in the multiplayer arena. The most telling statistic would be how much people keep playing multiplayer even after they've accumulated all four event cards. Certainly people were playing multiplayer regularly before tickets were introduced, so I'm sure that it's not everyone's only incentive for friendly online play.
- That's a very interesting way of looking at this. "should have more than" ...
I don't know, what if an everyday player doesn't win as often as they should? You see what I mean there? Meaning: what if an everyday player isn't consistently putting the wins in? Should that elite player still have more than anyone else? In terms of event cards?
Wouldn't everyone say no they should go make better decks and win?
Aphid, you can't watch ads for gems? That's weird! Is that a regional thing?
Also it is your bank, you should be allowed to spend it as you choose. Automatically applying it wouldn't be you choosing.
For me personally it wouldn't matter because I want 4 of every card. I'm of the belief that every card is good in the right situation.
Daalni, I'm in no way trying to negate in any way those hardcore players that log in everyday and are committed to this game.
What I'm saying is this idea allows for flexibility... with our time. We would all still be putting in the work here.
Let's say player- X is having a bad week... dog died, wife in the hospital, tornado blew the roof off...
here are currently that person's options:
1. FIND TIME in that mess of his personal life to keep logging in and playing.
2. Drop the $20
All my idea is, is adding a third option for further flexibility...
WHAT IF a person can make half of the time and WANTS to play? Well if Player-x doesn't have the cash because of said catastrophes, or doesn't want to spend it, this is a very viable solution that doesn't "hurt" anyone.
Let's also assume that he had played a ton the week prior to earn the extra tickets...
His bad week hits he now has this solution:
Burn his tickets and grab 2 cards, he still logs in for the other 2... and then his decision becomes: do I let it go until next week , or do I bust butt and refill this week?
This option doesn't negatively impact anyone.
It only impacts Player-X
The bank affords a flexibility for the PLAYER.
The side benefits were as mentioned:
1. More people playing at different times, and the only way this wouldn't be the case would be the scenario I mentioned: burn the bank and then don't refill that week... but then the following week SURGES the population of players, but since this wouldn't be happening at the same time for every player, it is balanced.
2. We have another option
3. Increases gem spending
4. It helps the hardcore acquire their cards faster. And IT DOES. If you are playing more often, you are earning more tickets (if you are winning, of course). Additional scenario for the hardcore: you log in , burn your tickets and you have 2 copies of the card for your deck right at the beginning of the week!!! Dual copies of a card can let you test new decks, show off that you have them already, and you get to play with them earlier than the many who might not have filled their banks.
Personally, I think this is a fantastic idea the more I think about it...
But, as it is my idea, truly; I am biased...
@Clarent1975 wrote:
Aphid, you can't watch ads for gems? That's weird! Is that a regional thing?Apparently it's an iPad2 thing.
@AphidOfDeath wrote:
@Clarent1975 wrote:
Aphid, you can't watch ads for gems? That's weird! Is that a regional thing?Apparently it's an iPad2 thing.
Check eBay or the classifieds in your area for a newer model. That thing is ancient. You should also be able to find old iPhones or Android tablets/phones that will work for dirt cheap used.
Another option is using Android emulators on your personal computer.
@GrinningRuiner wrote:
@AphidOfDeath wrote:
@Clarent1975 wrote:
Aphid, you can't watch ads for gems? That's weird! Is that a regional thing?Apparently it's an iPad2 thing.
Check eBay or the classifieds in your area for a newer model. That thing is ancient. You should also be able to find old iPhones or Android tablets/phones that will work for dirt cheap used.
Another option is using Android emulators on your personal computer.
It's not just ancient, it's Justified and Ancient. (That's right, I'm taking it back to the old school 'cause I'm an old fool who's so cool.) It outlasted our iPad Air, so I feel an unearned loyalty to it. 😃
I like your suggestion about using an Android emulator as that would be a cost-efficient option. Thanks for the tip!
@AphidOfDeath wrote:
@GrinningRuiner wrote:
@AphidOfDeath wrote:
@Clarent1975 wrote:
Aphid, you can't watch ads for gems? That's weird! Is that a regional thing?Apparently it's an iPad2 thing.
Check eBay or the classifieds in your area for a newer model. That thing is ancient. You should also be able to find old iPhones or Android tablets/phones that will work for dirt cheap used.
Another option is using Android emulators on your personal computer.
It's not just ancient, it's Justified and Ancient. (That's right, I'm taking it back to the old school 'cause I'm an old fool who's so cool.) It outlasted our iPad Air, so I feel an unearned loyalty to it. 😃
I like your suggestion about using an Android emulator as that would be a cost-efficient option. Thanks for the tip!
Hahah. Nice.
If you are going to try an emulator, I suggest Nox. Most are very poorly coded and inefficient. Nox is less bad than the others I've tried.
i could never figure out Nox and had major issues with it.
on topic : i would only be ok with OP's suggestion of banking tickets if we could also earn more than 4 copies of a card during the week. (so for those who play a lot, we could earn&recycle extra event cards)
- @jaydabbler
That's something I have always wondered...
Once you get to 4. If you recycle one, you cannot get a new one with tickets? - Look, i get you want flexibility withh your time. I do too. I'm running a business and just got the switch a few weeks back... I haven't played this game in a while. That being said, i don't feel i deserve the same cards as players who have put the time in to earn them, So i pay for them. I also believe in paying because i like the devs. I want to support them and let them know their game brings me joy.
This game is far more fair about free stuff than any other popular card game. Don't let your bias blond you to these two facts is all I'm asking: 1. Devs need money to support this game and their lives. 2. This game is more fair than most card games about doling out cards for free. Remember when the first event card cost was 2000 tickets? I think they've done a fair job of balancing for the casual crowd (of which I'm a part of). You always have the option to buy plants with gems too during the Event. Not ideal, but it's an option.
BPRD
