@jnicol1975 wrote:
@ImaHappy I did a quick count and I think it might be 182 bulbs required to complete the map? Which makes the math more discouraging.
This is encouraging. 🙂
Thanks for the feedback everyone!
I'm going to echo this. I'm no longer getting bulbs from whatever factor it was that saw me get them from almost every ops match and often in TT. XP is working now but 15k is too high. I had posted about this before as I felt that once things were fixed it would be too much XP to get a bulb. Some of the challenges are still bugged as well, showing complete when not. Luckily the trick where you go and vanquish enough of the proper enemies, log off, log back on, and vanquish another one of those key enemies gives the bulb (I had this with scientists yesterday).
I went and counted and it's 182 bulbs to unlock the entire map again just like last month but there's 2 problems; 1) we lose an entire day which is 2+ bulbs we can't get for the missing day (imagine February with this!), and 2) unless something changes, we won't get a 30 bulb influx like October. I got 5 bulbs yesterday with 2 from challenges and playing lots of TT and Ops, but I played a LOT and it was Sunday so didn't have to work, there's no way I can maintain this pace while working, playing other games, and working on my own projects plus RL obligations.
I would suggest one or more of the following:
-Reduce the bulb XP to 10k, 7.5k, or 5k. (i'm leaning more towards 7.5k or 5k now that the random bulb for finishing matches is no longer a thing).
-Provide more daily challenges and/or have them provide more than 1 bulb each.
To the devs, I've always been positive even when pointing out problems, but this has to be fixed and soon. I like the concept of the prize maps; give us incentive, let max rank XP count for something unlike GW2, and keep giving us new things to strive for, but this is going to frustrate people more than incentivize us. Please get this made less tedious ASAP.
@Iron_Guard8 wrote:To the devs, I've always been positive even when pointing out problems, but this has to be fixed and soon.
You're certainly an asset to the community, buddy! As for myself, I can no longer justify chasing a goal I can’t achieve (prize maps) and have stopped playing this game.
I’m different than most in the fact I’m a massive fan of the series and I’m not playing any other games, either.
Let that sink in... I’d rather not game at all than play BfN in its current state.
EDIT: not sure how my phone turned your quote black....
I posted about this on the PvZ Twitter as well, replying to the food fight tweet and there's at least one thread on Reddit about this I posted in too. The more visibility this gets the better.
I just wholeheartedly agree with the majority of the posted comments here. Very well spoken and thought out criticism! I just came from a 2 hour session of TT and Team Vanquish and earned a measly 2 bulbs, YAY...! And I was doing quite well actually.
I am a huge PvZ Fan, too. I played the sh!t out of GW1 and 2 with 2000+ hours combined, have the PvZ Monopoly, bought my wife a sunflower keychain, since we used to play together always and she was my "personal healer". Well, what can I say, the fun is almost gone. Even a non-gamer like my wife (she only played GW1+2 was actually not that bad) can tell that BFN feels WAY OFF and clunky as hell. I am really struggling to get used to it but it's becoming really difficult to like it. Now with the bulb crisis we are in and the hole BFN was digging itself just got a lot bigger.
Here is to hoping that the Devs will roll up their sleeves and get some serious tweaking done. Controls/Movement, aiming, balancing, bulb earn rate. There is A LOT to do and one patch a month just doesn't cut it.
Agree with all the above.... the time to earn bulbs has gone from a bit of a grind (I don't mind grinding) to a total grind
and the fun has all but gone for me too.
We have to be able to earn bulbs in a reasonable time frame so that people can utilise the time they have to play and still be able to complete the map....
its pretty ridiculous to expect people to give up SO much time out of their busy lives/families/jobs etc... people just are not able to do that.
And lets be honest, we are really talking about a HUGE amount of grinding and time for what amounts to a couple of hats, customisations and one costume (x 2 colours) plus emotes and slabs (most of which wont ever get used by most people).
It just isn't worth it for most people even if they had the time I would imagine.
@spIash_damage I like you love GW2 (never played GW1) .... have spent 2000 hours in gw2 or something..... but I don't play any other game, the arrival of BFN was super exciting and much welcomed....
and I love the potential of this game.... have adapted to the new graphics/playstyle etc and have coped with the numerous and neverending PC issues for both me and my partner since the beginning of the Founders edition, hung in there hoping that all would get sorted out and this would become the awesome game it could be.... love it and the new characters and maps etc etc... hope that Ops will be better in the end etc etc etc.......................................
however I find my interest already waning... primarily I think, or at least the last straw for me, seems to be due to this bulbs earning situation.... we grinded a lot last month as I was going away.... and the map was doable ( I was not too busy and was able to spend a lot of time in the game grinding out Ops, challenges etc).
When returning from my trip I returned to having 55 bulbs due to the 30 bulbs giveaway... so have spent the last week playing but really for nothing.... max bulbs so while earning them they didn't count... so just gathering coins.... nothing to spend them on either....
but its fine I thought the new prize map is coming.... yay....
however so was the patch and the earning rates of XP change and therefore bulb earning potential.....
even with the head start of 55 bulbs for the prize map... the grind involves crazy amounts of time and games and XP...
after playing for a few days I don't find it appealing or fun anymore,
the huge time between that wee ding-a-ling noises of being rewarded a prize bulb is so infrequent and unrewarding that I am losing interest fast.
I am scared for the game to be honest as much of the community it seems feels the same and it is very sad that such a loyal community is being turned off at such a great rate when the game has literally just been globally released.
And the way the global release itself was handled was a bit weird , but that's another discussion.
Fingers crossed they (Popcap, Devs, EA) can turn it around, but my feeling is they are running out of time.
@asabaida I started with GW1 myself but looking at Origin I have 313 hours in it while I have 2389 hours in GW2. I have over 200 in BfN, a big part is from the free roam zones but also the week layoff we had helped a lot with that during founders. I love all 3 games and BfN has massive potential, but they have got to fix this stuff soon. If people like @spIash_damage are unhappy and I'm getting a bit exasperated with the grind and the some of the other problems we still have, I can't imagine how people less invested are feeling right now.
I got the original PvZ on Steam and loved it. I actually had put off getting a smart phone for years but wanted to play PvZ2 so that actually pushed me to get a modern phone! I also enjoyed PvZ;Heroes although haven't played in awhile. I even have the PvZ:Risk board game. PvZ is one of the few IPs I really love (the other is Doctor Who, mostly the classics), so having a shooter based on PvZ was like heaven for me as I'm also a shooter fan since Wolfenstein 3D ran on my 486! The longer this stuff takes the fix, the more difficult it is going to be to recover from. Not every game can pull a 'No Man's Sky'.
@YeetYeetGw2 wrote:
@spIash_damageIf you have quit bfn, why are you here? To complain?
If you always look for negative, you can always find it.
If you’d actually read my posts, you’d see the answers in black and white... we (not me) are trying to help fix the game... same as day number one. I’ve been a highly visible member of this community and have always tried to help it become better - dating back to GW1.
Just because you don’t see the pages of private conversation I have with EA staff or haven’t gamed with me to know my intentions... that doesn’t mean you should jump to negative conclusions about me.
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