quickdraw con man
OVERPOWERED AND UNFAIR But for the latest update, there is a card called “ QuickDraw con man “ .. sorry for the language but it’s ***** crazy, unfair and stupid !!! It’s sooo cheap ( the ch...
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Astroshroom is one of my favourite plant cards, and it might be a little ironic that the conman is up there for me too, by far my fav colossal even after they drop his health. What really has me frustrated, more confused about some of these "upgrades or neutering" why some of the cards get and others don't or get weakened.
Why did Team Mascot, a common, get a buff from 1/3 to 1/4, when sports decks weren't in any trouble in fact it was just the opposite. The same was for an uncommon, the Zombot Drone Engineer, which gives science zombies +1 strength every time they do damage. I'm just baffled that these cards were buffed and the mascot is far more difficult to get rid of then the conman because it buffs itself and all sports zombies 1/1 every turn.
My frustration is more to the fact that what was once a semi active forum, where there were decent debate and conversations, and the clique peas incident was a flicker of what has become. It seems like the majority of the posters from a few months ago have dissipated, and I do realize that everything is a fad to some extent and some people may have just gone back to randomly checking in, rather than posting pics of a funny thing in a game, or something weird that happened ingame etc, or even asking for help or questions about whether this is possible or something like that....and now its same thing over and over again.
I apologize to the community for losing my temper a few times and saying things that are not warranted(or necessarily allowed in here)
To @BlazinS thanks for the information link. That deserves a kudo as does
@BPRDHB for his mic drop
Why did Team Mascot, a common, get a buff from 1/3 to 1/4, when sports decks weren't in any trouble in fact it was just the opposite. The same was for an uncommon, the Zombot Drone Engineer, which gives science zombies +1 strength every time they do damage. I'm just baffled that these cards were buffed and the mascot is far more difficult to get rid of then the conman because it buffs itself and all sports zombies 1/1 every turn.
My frustration is more to the fact that what was once a semi active forum, where there were decent debate and conversations, and the clique peas incident was a flicker of what has become. It seems like the majority of the posters from a few months ago have dissipated, and I do realize that everything is a fad to some extent and some people may have just gone back to randomly checking in, rather than posting pics of a funny thing in a game, or something weird that happened ingame etc, or even asking for help or questions about whether this is possible or something like that....and now its same thing over and over again.
I apologize to the community for losing my temper a few times and saying things that are not warranted(or necessarily allowed in here)
To @BlazinS thanks for the information link. That deserves a kudo as does
@BPRDHB for his mic drop
I just find it a little irritating that Plants have, by my count, 11 cards (12 if we include Galacta-Cactus), spread across 4 classes, that can do direct damage to a Zombie hero outside of combat:
Heartichoke
Sportacus
Admiral Navy Bean
Grapes of Wrath
Dandy Lion King
Electric Blueberry
Sonic Bloom
Sergeant Strongberry
Punish-Shroom
Astro-Shroom
Mirror-Nut
By contrast, Zombies have 5, and they're all in Crazy class:
Quickdraw Con Man
Jester
Tankylosaurus
Flamenco Zombie
Gas Giant
Not only that, but compared to some of the other ones, QCM's ability is a little lack-luster. Yes, he'll get in an extra damage each turn, plus more of the Plant player draws more cards, but if you put in too much card-gifting, you're just helping the opponent once they take out the QCM.
I'm not saying he may not need a slight balancing; I'm just saying Zombie players who have faced countless Admiral Navy Beans or Heartichokes may have trouble mustering up too much sympathy for the Plants' plight.
- Congo dancer also can do 1 damage when comes into play. And triassic will bring a dancing zombie similar to admiral navy bean....just wait for the drama....
And you also left out berry blast, precision blast, and ground pound. They are all direct damage. And final mission. But in any case, plants do have plenty of direct damage
@jj48car wrote:I just find it a little irritating that Plants have, by my count, 11 cards (12 if we include Galacta-Cactus), spread across 4 classes, that can do direct damage to a Zombie hero outside of combat:
Heartichoke
Sportacus
Admiral Navy Bean
Grapes of Wrath
Dandy Lion King
Electric Blueberry
Sonic Bloom
Sergeant Strongberry
Punish-Shroom
Astro-Shroom
Mirror-Nut
By contrast, Zombies have 5, and they're all in Crazy class:
Quickdraw Con Man
Jester
Tankylosaurus
Flamenco Zombie
Gas Giant
Not only that, but compared to some of the other ones, QCM's ability is a little lack-luster. Yes, he'll get in an extra damage each turn, plus more of the Plant player draws more cards, but if you put in too much card-gifting, you're just helping the opponent once they take out the QCM.
I'm not saying he may not need a slight balancing; I'm just saying Zombie players who have faced countless Admiral Navy Beans or Heartichokes may have trouble mustering up too much sympathy for the Plants' plight.
Zombie player claiming things are unfair right now. Not something you see often.
Who said anything about it being unfair? I don't mind a disparity in playstyles (since the game is asymmetric anyway); I'm just saying it seems odd that some Plant players are up in arms about a lesser version of what Zombie players have been dealing with for some time.
- If you reread your post that’s pretty much what you’re saying without using the term “unfair”. If not then we can agree you are just making a * for tat argument with your trouble having sympathy comment. I get it. You’re a zombie player. Things were tilted the other way a while back and now you’re on the favorable side. If I had to guess it’s going to swing the other way soon and people on the other side will be complaining things are unfair.
- Ive been waiting for you to post. Nice to see you still pop in, if nothing else to look? Either way it good to see a name from a few months ago.
I agree with you, and have been saying for a while that the second half of the set is going to have a similar effect, just for different heroes.
I just hope that there's not a repeat of the past couple months, and I also hope that it doesn't turn from bickering to gloating and vice versa.
And he wasn't saying that zombies have it unfairly. It was just like you said, a * for tat, but when this thread was started with a conman to Astroshroom comparison, it's a decent point, and yeah I'm a zombie that plays plants, but I do play plants, and see both sides of the argument.
I still would like to know what would have been if all was just as it is except, clique peas never got neutered, and were still a powerhouse....
@patdk75 wrote:
Ive been waiting for you to post. Nice to see you still pop in, if nothing else to look? Either way it good to see a name from a few months ago.
I agree with you, and have been saying for a while that the second half of the set is going to have a similar effect, just for different heroes.
I just hope that there's not a repeat of the past couple months, and I also hope that it doesn't turn from bickering to gloating and vice versa.
And he wasn't saying that zombies have it unfairly. It was just like you said, a * for tat, but when this thread was started with a conman to Astroshroom comparison, it's a decent point, and yeah I'm a zombie that plays plants, but I do play plants, and see both sides of the argument.
I still would like to know what would have been if all was just as it is except, clique peas never got neutered, and were still a powerhouse....👊🏻 I still keep an eye on things but you’re right from one of your earlier post, boards have been rough for a while. I hope the devs can bring more balance to the game here soon. Asroshroom is absolutely a great card. In my opinion it’s much easier to counter than a QCM with only one health though.
i still have a few plant decks I can win with more than I lose. It seems like there’s only a few heros I can win consistently at the moment with but it is what it is.
