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Re: Cosmics Question

I don't think so, because the Wall-Nuts weren't conjured by the Cosmic Nut; Wall-Nut Bowling was.  Wall-Nut Bowling would get the 3 strength, but it can't because it's a trick.  It then makes Wall-Nuts that don't get the strength bonus because Wall-Nut Bowling made them, not the Cosmic Nut.

Just like my Cosmic Scientist conjured a Portal Technician and gave him Bullseye, but when he died and made a random zombie, that zombie didn't have Bullseye anymore.

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  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago
    I understand what you are saying but that is a bad example for comparison. The portal technician got the bullseye. The way I see it(and I mean in my brain however messed up that is) if cakesplosion can be deadly, then why shouldn't the wall nuts get the +3?
    But then by my way of thinking, that would mean the mushrooms created by a grotto that was conjured by cosmic shroom would be +2, so I can see you are right, just the example isn't the same situation.
    Thanks though, and on another note....that cosmic nut when conjuring a smackedamia will actually be nerfed. How lame is that eh?
  •  @patdk75 the example provided by @jj48car was completely accurate and a very good one.

    It is the first card that gains the buff, the second card (made/conjured by the first card) will not have the buff. For this reason....

    Portal Technician (buffed) -> conjures non-buffed minion

    Shroom for Two (with the first mushroom buffed) -> conjures non-buffed teammate in front of it

    So in the case of Cosmic Cards conjuring tricks...

    Cosmic Imp-> Cakesplosion ... Cakesplosion doesn't produce another card afterwards

    Cosmic Nut-> Wall Nut Bowling  ...Bowling actually conjures three new nuts and does damage in 3 lanes

    Cosmic Scientist -> Hail-a-Copter (Trick) -> Hail-A-Copter Conjures a Copter Commando Imp (If Cosmic Scientist conjured the Commando directly, then it will have bullseye but it won't be playable as a trick)

  • jaydabbler's avatar
    jaydabbler
    8 years ago

    maybe that last example will help it make the most sense to you

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago
    It made sense to me when he explained it.
    You are using two separate cards that can be as one. If scientist conjured the imp token of course it would have bullseye.
    If he conjured hail-a-copter.... I think it's called that... and then the trick technically will have bullseye and you are saying that when the trick is played that the imp once in play won't have bullseye?
    How is that any different than if he conjures zombot wrath and hits plant hero directly, and that 3 or 6 points damage should be bullseye
  • ok, let me try again

    Conjuring makes another card.

    so....

    Card 1 is Cosmic Scientist. (it conjures a science card (Hail-A-Copter) and adds bullseye)

    Card 2 is Hail-A-Copter (trick, cannot gain bullseye (or has no effect even if it can gain this Trait)

    Card 3 is Copter Commando (a zombie conjured by the Hail-A-Copter trick, which does not add bullseye)

    Card 1 is Cosmic Nut (it conjures Wall Nut Bowling and adds +3 attack)

    Card 2 is Wall Nut Bowling (Trick, cannot gain attack (or has no effect even if it can gain this Trait)

    Card 2 DOES 6 damage in each ground lane

    Card 3,4&5 is a "6-health" Wall Nut (plants conjured by Wall Nut Bowling, which does not add any attack and - if anything - explicitly states that it sets the health to 6, with no mention of any attack)

    For Zombot Wrath, I'm fairly certain that Bullseye IS added, the same way that Cakesplosion gains Deadly from Cosmic Imp. I have a faint recollection of doing this to an opponent, but it's rare to get Wrath so it's probably only happened to me once before?

    Card 1 is Cosmic Imp/Cosmic Scientist

    Card 2 is Cakesplosion/Zombot Wrath

    Card 2 does damage as described with the Trait added.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago
    I know that it does because I have seen it ingame.
    Same as final mission but then its sometimes hard to tell for me.
    Cosmic Scientist conjures final mission but also have a Disconaut in play.
    So if the zombie sacrifice will be...a 4/4 unlife of the party would it have bullseye for the Scientist? If the zombie was 3/3 so Disconaut gives bullseye but final mission is four damage....
  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago
    That's what got me feeling cornfoosed when I was just starting playing the Cosmics.
    Cosmic imp can conjure one of those imp/zombie/gargantuar tricks and I get that all those cards will not have deadly, but technically the trick itself does, right?
  • well if you knew it did why did you write "it should have bullseye" ?

    --Final Mission does the 4 damage, it DGAF about what card was sacrificed. (Disconaut makes no difference if in play or not.)

    if final mission was conjured by Cosmic Scientist then I believe it will do bullseye dmg

    if not conjured, then you sacrifice a card in play and do more than 3 damage via a trick, both of those things mean that bullseye via Disconaut is not applied

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago
    I'm not sure, so I apologize for the misspeak or whatever you want to call it.
    The whole thing was because I was thinking in terms of shroom for two, which you mentioned. The way I had it in my head was the nuts were all the first shroom, when in fact, the six damage per ground lane is the first sheoom, and the wall nuts are the second shroom with team up. Yes?

    Since on the topic of the bolwing... if you have one lane full so a wall nut can't go there, does the six damage for that lane occur?
  • Bowling is a trick and it does two things

    1. Conjures a nut in each ground lane (if there is room for them).

    2. Does 6 damage in 3 lanes (regardless of if the nuts are conjured).

    The wording on that card is poor, and does kind of sound like it will only do damage in the lanes where the nuts are made, but if fact it does 6x3 damage regardless of the result of the first step.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago
    Thank you for that. I have wondered about that for a while because I have had everything set up but they had less than 10 life and nothing on ground. I had only one lane full so I still wouldn't have been able to tell.
    Yes, unfortunately some cards are worded quite terribly, I can only imagine what it is like in other languages...
  • BlazinsZ's avatar
    BlazinsZ
    8 years ago

    it is the same with Petal-Morphosis, the animation even shows a glow around the card, indicating that card gained ''Strikethrough'', but really you will never enjoy it, that is, you have a trick with Strikethrough, but totally useless xD, the brightness is to troll you XD,  is like a Captain Cucumber without attack, he have an ability, but he can't use it. Bowling have +3, but it really is not a physical plant to attack and take profit of it... 

    many of us have been mocked like this xD

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