Pop cap wants to know the 3 variants to buff/nerf via twitter (link inside)

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@PhooStansky wrote:

I see all the complaints about the pirates barrel and just want to point out that Rose is damned near unkillable in Arcane Enigma form and is capable of up to 60dmg.  

I am not usually a dreadbeard player.  I get caught by the barrel but don't feel like one showing up is a death sentence.

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@PhooStansky

Only two classes can deal with it, and even then if the Pirate knows what's up he won't walk into a Spikeweed. It's almost a guaranteed 120 damage jump on any other class, and as you know:

Cactus - 125

Chomper - 175

Citron - 200

Corn - 150

Peashooter - 125

Rose - 100

Sunflower - 100

Rose and Sunflower are insta killed

Cactus and Peashooter survive with 5 Health

Corn survives with 30

Chomper with 55

Citron with 80

Pretty much one shots every plant class from the get go. As many abilities from zombies do, and this is why you're not seeing many players playing low health classes, much.

If the above classes don't use their primary abilities to escape then this is the outcome, every time. Once those primarily abilities are used they're vulnerable and dead to the next thing.

Damage > CC any day of the week.

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Imagine if Arcane Enigma did 60 burst damage as soon as she came out of the phase, she would have a 60 damage jump on every zombie. Health values are:

All Star - 200

Captain Deadbeard - 125

Engineer - 125

Imp - 75 / Mech - 350-400

Scientist - 100

Soldier - 125

Super Brainz - 200

She can't insta kill anyone with it?

Imp survives with 15 but can call a Mech

Scientist survives with 40 but he can heal / warp

Captain, Engineer, Soldier survive with 65

All Star and Super Brainz survive with 140

Every class can easily evade the damage, and even if they don't everyone survives with enough health to kill Rose almost every time. She only ever wins if she Goats you instantly, damages you, as soon as you come out you get time snared and again more damage, and then when you come out of that she uses Arcane Enigma to cause more damage and then finishes you off. That's all 3 abilities just to kill someone, and believe me that rarely ever happens and that's why she sucks 🙂

Barrel is more devastating to various classes designed to explode in the middle of plants, and without a Rose being there with Goatify that's exactly what will happen every single time.