Rose isn't that bad
Why do people think that rose is weak? I admit she seemed useless after the patch on her but now zombies constantly underestimate roses and as a result of this I usually get top kills and assists 85% ...
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I got transformed to a Goaty and I was receiving capture XP. It was impossible to know if I counted as a player but based on the fact I got capture bonus, surely? It was weird though, I was playing on Zomburbia at the time and well I was trying to defend. Actually I can't remember who was attacking or defending, or what map it was, I just remember getting capture XP as a Goat :P
Also, I wouldn't switch to Rose just because nobody else was playing her, I would rather let the game end. You don't need the teleport up to win games, zombies win most of theirs without any Engineer at all. I play classes that I feel like playing, mostly Unicorn Chomper just because even when we are being spawn killed I can escape 🙂
I think you're missing the point slightly, and you can call me a bad player that's fine. You played Rose when you were defending and I was playing her when attacking, and I didn't ambush any Mechs really, I was cornered and virtually trapped anyway so I jumped out and started the fight. I'm giggling at your comments about winning vanquish streak and master with Rose though, I haven't even seen Rose win any boast since the patch, in fact I don't even see many playing at all. That game that I managed to get 13 kills in, it wasn't a full game, both spawn and teleporter was camped by Mechs and I doubt you would have even taken half the kills I got.
Cool story bro.
Rose is balanced with what exactly? She sucks.
I play rose on offense and defense and do well with her on both.
Got any videos or screenshots of those boasts?
Rose isn't quite awful, but she's nearly there.
She needs more damage that part is true. You can have vanquish master with anything bar Rose, and although she has great abilities, the ability to kill is also vital and FUN. I'm not expecting godlike kills like before, but if she can keep up with a sunflower that's cool by me. Get rid of the charge on fire and ice rose too. It's not needed at all, and actually detracts from her ability to kill.
Goats should not count as defenders / or capturers Popcap. Fix that, as it's quite a buff to her capabilities. (if true ofc - more testing required)
I rarely see games without an engineer trying to build a TP - be honest i'm sure you don't either. If they don't have one they lose, it's that simple. It can easily add upto 30 odd seconds of getting back into the action depending on the class, map, and cap point. That is a huge amount of time out of the game. It also allows the opposition to push out and defend the point from infront, giving them valuable breathing space, so even if they die by the time you've reached anywhere near the cap point they're back in your face.
I've won many games by simply destroying the Teleporter over, and over again. If you pressure that enough you'll see what a difference it makes.
"best defence is a good offence"
~ Zaheen 2016
^^ 😉
Of course, when I see a Corn helping me guard the teleporter it slows them down, but it's not like teleport is a must in games is what I meant. Everyone has already advanced before the Engineer has built one up, and some plants are still back at the previous area and a few fresh kills are defending the new one, whilst most of the zombies rush the new zone. I guess we have different experiences, many times I've guarded that teleporter and we lost the base. I guess that's my fault for not being able to be in both places at once but it's really the base you need to defend if you're picking between the two.
Anyway, I said the best defence is good offence. Zombies spawn camping completely bypasses the need to defend 🙂
Charging a lost base to slow down attackers reaching the new one is much better defence than just sitting and waiting to be ambushed at the new base. You need the jump and advantage if you're a plant, else you're dead. I wish the same applied to the zombie side and that's why I disagree when you're all saying Rose is balanced, she can get the jump on most zombies and still lose.
