Remove. Bots. From. Multiplayer. PvP.
Need I say anything? I think any person with a brain knows this is a problem by now.
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This game doesn't need bots @Shadowphinx101 @stukapooka , bots suck and make me rage quit from this game, more people are abandoning it because of them.
This game needs crossplay, more advertising, and even without this two things I have full lobbies every time on PS4.
Bots are terrible and ruined this game's multiplayer. They ruin sneak and flank gameplay, destroy movement based characters, they have no warnings for when they replace a player and you get surprised and laserd by them because of aimbot.
If you want to play against them go to private play. If you want them for PC, specifically mention PC, we don't need this disaster on console.
- @GutmanSca Im not arguing that they arent rage inducing or unfair but even with cross play unless we get a significant amount of more people the game won't improve in population and no popcap realeasing a video on your youtube or twitter dosent count as advertising.
Cross-play would definitely help with this situation, and I know they have said before that they're not planning on developing it, but maybe soon things will change and they'll incorporate it. It would make a really good selling point especially with new generation consoles on the horizon. Also, a recent article said EA is bringing BFN to switch soon, so that's 2 new gen consoles and a whole new platform to sell the game on. I bet the player base will rise soon, and maybe bots will become very few in numbers.
@PineapplePianoUnless marketing improves with the games I doubt it will alongside all the bugs that will most likely pop up in a port and that switch isnt as big a platform as others plus that the games first have to be transferred as backwards compatible and making sure cross play also works with those standards is going to be a long and difficult process.
- @GutmanSca Actually we do. Everything about this game, the marketing and lack of crossplay contributes. Otherwise do u really think the devs would've infected multiplayer with AI? PPL have been complaining PC and Console alike about dead lobbies, bots solve the problem. I'm with @stukapooka on this one tbh. We need them. And I think subjecting them only to PC isn't fair nor right, cuz Console hasn't got a great playerbase either tbf.
- @GutmanSca Yeah it's really weird. There genuinely are lobbies and people playing the game, but for some reason the game servers make 10 lobbies full of bots instead of 4 lobbies with real players. The matchmaker is strange. And I don't know why we haven't got an answer on crossplay yet. Maybe after sales are really low, they can make this game free-to-play but lock PvE behind Rux or something.
I am a PC player, so I never feel Cross-Play is bad.
And I think lobby-merging system is as important as (or more important than) Cross-Play.
Even if Cross-Play established and there are 10 lobbies and 240 players in Turf Takeover in evening, if lobby-merging system isn't established, player number must be decreased at night, so there will be 10 lobbies and 120 player or so at night (average 12 players per one lobby).
I think BFN needs a lot of massive changes to truly reach its maximum potential and bots is a pretty good start.
Other games have bots but in BFN it is more frustrating due to the lacking player base. I am going to start with a recommended way on fixing them. When the player base increases, the bots can be removed if so desired by Popcap.
1. Have bots only appear to even teams. 8v4 --> 8v8. When a player on the team with more actual players leaves it, a bot is removed. 8v8 --> 7v8 --> 7v7
2. Have bots have a delayed reaction to players that are to the left, right, or behind the bot. Right: 1.2 Sec Delay, Left: 1.2 Sec Delay, Behind: 2 Sec Delay.
3. Slightly decrease accuracy.
4. Fix any abilities being used during others and other bugs with them.
5. Give at least 75% Exp for vanquishing them or full Exp.
The ideas of bringing more players is a great idea, but advertising would have a much better time if a giant update was going to be added. It would be good due to it bringing a lot of attention to it.
1. Giant Update with balance patch, new characters, new map(s), new free customization in the Reward-o-Tron, and bug fixes would get current players hyped and bring back players who left.
2. Advertisement would get new players hyped and want to buy the game.
3. Community challenges and more feedback from devs would also give content creators and players things to go off of and generate hype as well.
