Roses and other characters balance:
Hello. I already said a bit about rose after the last update. Now I want see if someone here agree with me. Rose and her variants are unbalanced compared to other characters, and I want her strong a...
Forum Discussion
@ShavedThronel0 You maxed out all the roses? OMG! Good job! 🙂
About nerfing Electro-Brainz, some Scientists and Eletrician is ok to me, but the Imps don't need a nerf. Their Anti-Gravity bomb and their Z-Mech might be a little strong, but outside the Z-Mech, they have low health and their ability to spin and shoot like crazy are a little weak, just to make things a little balanced. Sometimes I even think they still need a small buff... but then they would take the world with no problem, sooo... I think they are good enough right now. But let's see how Popcap will react about these characters.
@cmh05171 You're right! Engineer's turrets are op against Rose's guardians. Maybe if they add the lvl 1 and 2 turrets from the first game and make some upgrades to the Rose's guardians. And also, I have the same problem on the moon.
@ShavedThronel0 Well... They have small health compared to other characters and the Impkata only hit 3 or 4 plants. And he's also the only zombie class that can't escape the Chomper (I mean, he have a hovering double jump, but it's still hard to escape).
@Redlove108 I know. I Camo-Cactus need some buffs, like more ammo and faster reload. She could also have a spiky-shotgun, but she is already on the 1st game, so Popcap would need to change her in GW1 too (maybe). And also, how could a Cactus shoot spikes like a shotgun? Camo-Cactus should really have a buff to be balanced with Captain-Sharkbite.
@Shogunbear I still think they are ok right now. But let's see how Popcap will react to him.
@Redlove108 Well... Future Cactus is really OP, but he/she don't need a nerf
@Boolerex Frost Rose might need some better buffs 2 (I know, Insta-Freeze = already OP, but that wouldn't change to much 2 me). And Fire-Rose might need a buff too.
@xXFrozenChromeXx I know. I don't want to see more good things nerfed again. Foot Soldier is ok how he is right now.
what nesesita be balanced in GW2 is all new kinds of zombies all nesesitan decrease of damage and ammunition to be a balance and plants nothing op maybe the BBQ corn but do not think so because this does not have improved damage and plants need a buff since haora have to attack and some variants of plant the plant nesesita a buff to as left back with new zombies especially was before the patch is rose as it is a missing class game even that put something as important as teleporting or so this buff variant pls regrésenla to what it was before the patch addresses the only change needed was a reduction cc other changes were unnecessary and change of speed reduction of attack and you have to set best to give the shots as they are very slow by the nerf and are very easy to dodge buff pls.
Rose
-Health buff (+10/25) Not sure.
-Regular Rose Damage up +1
-Druid Rose Ammo Slot buff
-Fire Rose should move and jump with less penalty when charging
-Ice Rose should move and jump with no penalty when charging.
Ice Rose freeze faster and the Ice Charged attack should turn back to instafreeze at the cost of further less damage or apply more freeze stacks and freeze the target with a couple of more hits.
Suggestion:
- Ice Rose freeze with 11-10 shots (10-9 with ice upgrade)- Ice Rose charged attack instafreeze and deals 15-20 damage
- Ice Rose charged attack doesn't instafreeze and deal 35 damage. After the charged attack need 4 shots to freeze (3 with ice upgrade)
Rose Discussion
She is a support. I think we shouldn't give her damage options like better homing or projectile speed, or she will end to do more damage than a Corn. What she need in my opinion
AT THE MOST, MAYBE SOME EXTRA AMMO FOR HELPING HER DOING SUPPRESS FIRE.
The enigma has a delay of activation, and hp nerf maked her unable to activate it, and the homing and hp nerf and the fact homing doesn't activate on specifics ranges making her stay too much away from fights because she can't trade back most of zombie classes. I think the HP buff seems reasonable with minor changes to those specifics classes.
I think this list is perfect. With the homing still in this poor state she will not be abused by veterans that want to faceroll with this class, but the HP can make her more affordable to new players that want to support their team.
Supports should be easy and accessible for most players!
@CPUlucky ... Sorry, but I don't understand. You are talking english with spanish (or portuguese) right? Cause I don't speak spanish, but if you know how to talk portuguese, I guess I can translate ya for the guys, I guess
@xXFrozenChromeXx I know. Rose is a support character, but Engineer and Scientist are also support characters and they are strong 🤔 I think Rose should have some buffs to be good with these guys. Her Ice variant might not need a damage buff cause a fully charged shoot that insta-freeze enemies is good enough. Fire and Ice Roses should also have no (or less) penalty when charging. The list is good to balance her (or make her strong how she was in beta). Also, 125 is better than 110 hp
@FelipeGames2000They are less orientated as a supports character.
Engineer has only 1 single low durations crowd control. Scientists is more an assassin.
Rose has still 2 powerful CCs. I tryed recently this class.. while i think is not THAT bad as people say, maybe the fact she's too squishy is making new players discouraging to plays it.
25Hp are okay for me if developers are okay for that. I would like to test before making changes, but i can't really so devs should test and see@xXFrozenChromeXx SHUT UP I KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR HER Ok just kidding, sorry, forgive me and don't hate. XD Anyway, Engineer can stop the plants with the Sonic Grenade, have a splash damage like Peashooter and the Jackhammer can knockback plants. Roses may be good with some abilities like Time Snare to cancel some zombies abilities and Goatify to make zombies weaker, but I still keep dying easily compared to Engineer. And about Scientists, yeah, they are assassins in close range. So, no. Rose is not 2 strong for CC (remember, I am brazilian, so I have no idea what is crowd control).
