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@benn1nat0rWhat? Just pick solo Acorn and Citron, and Sunflower with hard target.
I don't what are you talking about regarding "Zombie Superiority", plants have the supremacy now after the last two patches.
One more thing: just saw the image correctly, the problem here is not superiority, is unbalanced teams.
- benn1nat0r5 years agoSeasoned Ace
@GutmanSca I think zombies still remain better considering Steam Blaster and Brainium Basher are so good. Some zombies have been op since the beginning and have never been nerfed (e.g. Engineer), while all good plants are nerfed quickly.
Btw Scientist is way better than Sunflower as well. He has warp and can heal large groups. His only downside is he can't shoot while healing, unlike Sunflower.
I would like to say that I would have appreciated a more detailed reply that explains why you disagree with some of my points. Edit: I really like your detailed reply in your character nerf thread 🙂!. I disagreed with many things @Pheesley said, but he always offered to explain his opinions more. Therefore, a discussion was created that helped us to understand each others opinions more.
And as for unbalanced teams: The thing is, rank doesn't matter after rank 200. Rank is not indicative of skill. My team was very good and everyone knew what they were doing. It was just that there were undefeatable Space Stations camping at every capture point and they all had the stupid Assimilation upgrade. there was no chance of disarming the bomb. They insta-killed everyone who got close. And the All Stars were more powerful than the Citrons in all of my lobbies, believe it or not. While Citron needs some nerfs, All Star also needs the radius of his imp bomb and damage dealt by it reduced. He could insta-kill half the plant team with. The hit-box is way bigger than indicated by the explosion. this should be fixed
Note: I edited this post because the original sounded overly negative. I would like to say that I respect @GutmanSca and like many of his posts 🙂. I didn't mean for my post to sound as negative as it was. I have now identified the elements that made it sound this way and removed them, so my feelings are more accurately represented.
I just wanted to say I like detailed feedback on my points and as his post didn't go in depth on my arguments, I said he probably didn't even read my post. I would like to apologize for this.
- 5 years ago@benn1nat0r I just played this mode and it comes down to a few things. 1. Legendary Upgrades 2. Amount of Citrons 3. Skill of Sunflower(s) 4. How many people are talking to each other in a fully decked out Space Station
Besides that, Zombie superiority has slightly dissipated. There are some times where Zombies feel unfair, but since many characters feel unfair to fight on both sides, it doesn't really feel like it is just Zombies. Lastly, this is a character restrictive mode and since this mode came out it has had issues. I do agree though that if Plants get nerfed too much, then Zombies can easily steamroll over them, we have seen it done in the past.- benn1nat0r5 years agoSeasoned Ace
@SundropDot I know plants can win this mode and Citron is very powerful. from my experience there are op plants and zombies in this mode, which means it overall balances itself quite well. they only disturbing factor to this is Space Station with the Assimilation upgrade. It is extremely op, but not many use it. Therefore, it doesn't end up being a huge problem for the game mode, but I always encounter such players when I play it. If there ae Space Stations with this upgrade, the plants don't stand a chance.
Space Station + Cadet is seriously overpowered compared to Oak + Acorn
@PineapplePiano Yes Brainium Basher desperately needs nerfing. I originally intended on comparing every plant and zombie, but feared the post would be deleted because it would have been to long. Therefore, I only ended up comparing Oak and Space Station. I will now make a series of posts and will rename this thread to focus more on Space Station.
- 5 years ago@benn1nat0r I agree about zombie superiority. In every single pvp lobby I log into including giddy park, almost all of the time, the zombies are dominating and spawn camping.
Devs, please nerf brainium basher in the next patch.- TheSprinter855 years agoHero
Not gonna lie, I use Assimilation, Afterburners, Refreshing Revive combo in this Weekly Event and I must say that you can get tons of vanquishes with it. I’ve got quintuple vanquishes at once. Not to mention you can Space Force Crater Maker back.
I would say Afterburners is not OP, but Assimilate is.
Space Station has always felt superior over Acorn and Oak. Like way too superior. Basically their hard counter. Crater Maker shreds high health targets.
@benn1nat0r Looking forward to multiple posts on these series. Great post! 🙂
EDIT: Wrong emoji.