Spartacus NOT WORKING. Wow...
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The point of spartacus and defensive end was to lessen the amount of cancer spell decks (especially prof brainstorm and solar flare)
Defensive end really shook the meta.
Spartacus, on the ...
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@jaydabbler and I'm just playing devil's advocate here, just spitballin'.... while i understand jester is an effect of the card and not from them playing tricks, and while i wholeheartedly agree that changing the mechanics would break other cards; i do feel sportacus is outclassed by both jestster in damaging the hero conditions, and def end (especially with gargologists) in the defending against tricks conditions.
I think the easiest fix would be putting 1 shield on him. This would at least defend a bit against common tricks giving a bit more longevity.
While the card has brought me a little success, the main thing I've found it useful for is taking the hit for another card I've played. That's still a great use, but there are better 3 cost cards to run, imo. There's nothing about it that makes me value it over BeP, for sure.
Not only that, but most importantly... with a shield he would actually match his design!
I think the easiest fix would be putting 1 shield on him. This would at least defend a bit against common tricks giving a bit more longevity.
While the card has brought me a little success, the main thing I've found it useful for is taking the hit for another card I've played. That's still a great use, but there are better 3 cost cards to run, imo. There's nothing about it that makes me value it over BeP, for sure.
Not only that, but most importantly... with a shield he would actually match his design!
EA_Andy
EA Staff (Retired)
EA Staff (Retired)Hey all,
Just wanted to let you know that this is working as designed. The reason is that the trick does its effect, and then Spartacus isn't alive any longer to do its damage.
Hope that helps 🙂
- Andy -
Then what about the jester? when i used a Berry Blast on it once to kill it i still took damage seeing as it should go like this Trick>Effect>Jester/Sportacus it should have killed him without me taking damage but i still did and seeing as the effect of both of these are just about 1-1 they should work exactly the same
@Coolbond wrote:
Then what about the jester? when i used a Berry Blast on it once to kill it i still took damage seeing as it should go like this Trick>Effect>Jester/Sportacus it should have killed him without me taking damage but i still did and seeing as the effect of both of these are just about 1-1 they should work exactly the same
You can add Punish-Shroom to the same list.
There doesn't seem to be any consistency.
Punish shroom is diffrent tho as it is on Death of the shroom for example you got this setup S42 S42 S42 PS SS and the opponent uses the chickening because all of them dies left to right it triggers 7 times for a total of 14 potential damage(discounting armor and immunity).
but if you got PS S42 S42 S42 SS it would only trigger once as the death and effect goes from left to right.
a bit annoying but that is how it works
TLDR to use HS terms Punshrom got the ability as long as pun shroom is alive all mushrooms have this cards deathrattle.
Deathrattle when it dies deal 2 damage randomly to one enemy.
while Sportacus/Jester has when Opponent Uses/deals Spells/damage deal 2 damage to enemy hero.
Pun shroom is basically a sliver from magic.
basically what EA and popcap needs to do is template the cards better for example give them both the ability Counter with the modifyer damage/tricks and it will easily work just as well as stated earlier they are basically the same card with diffrent cost and stats
Why does a Jester do its damage after it's dead?
Why does a Punish Shroom do its damage after it's dead?
@timborino wrote:
Why does a Jester do its damage after it's dead?
Why does a Punish Shroom do its damage after it's dead?
While I'd like to see consistency, but understand it's working as intended, EA may need to tweak ingame notes to help avoid confusion/disapointment/frustration by players.
BPRD
Let me offer up these foods for thoughts...
Explaining the Jester is easy. His ability is “When hurt: Do 2 damage to the Plant Hero.” Hurting comes before death, so that’s why he activates even when you do 5+ damage to him at the onset or retaliates twice when Pair of Pears kills him though he initially sat at 1 health. Destroy him instead though, and no retaliation. Imp-Throwing Gargantuar works in a similar fashion.
To address the Punish-Room situation, we must first witness Zombot Drone Engineer (aka Zed) whose ability is “Whenever a Science Zombie does damage, that Zombie gets +1(strength).” Let’s imagine that Ice Pirate*, who belongs to the tribe Science Pirate Zombie, completes his attack and does damage, but also dies to death during the attack. Does Zed increase Ice Pirates’ strength since Ice Pirate met the prerequisites (i.e. science zombie does damage)? That answer is No as many who have seen the Science tribe in action can attest.
The Punish-Room has the ability “When a Mushroom is destroyed, do 2 damage to a random Zombie or Zombie Hero.” I will now presume that Punish-Room uses the same code to trigger his ability as Zed does his. If it were used exactly the same, then when a Mushroom died Punish-Room’s ability would not activate (i.e. Zed’s ability did not activate when Ice Pirate died, therefore Punish-Room’s ability does not activate when arbitrary Mushroom dies). As such, I further propose that there is likely a parameter/passed variable that allows the ability to activate post-mortem. Since this ability is applicable to all those of the tribe Mushroom and Punish-Room is a card-carrying member of said tribe, he is able to activate his own ability, a physically destructive death rattle if you will.
And so, circling back to the original topic, Sportacus does not pass the parameter “ok to use this ability at death” when killed via a trick, but instead uses his ability in the same way as Zed and the discussed-in-a-prior-post Black-Eyed Pea.
Hopefully there're only a few TL;DRs out there. 😃
*Yes, Ice Pirates are from space, and thus sciencey.
