Suggestion: Mech Health
Why do they need to have 350-400 Health anyway?
With so much firepower, it should be 150 topside.
Forum Discussion
@ChikoWiko wrote:
^ yeah pretty much
This is why I don't spend much time responding to you, because now you're saying it is perfectly fine for a plants to have a Mech of 2000 health if it was 2-3 bigger than the Imps Mech? A bit like the one in Infinity, you're saying that's absolutely fine?
It would pretty much stomp all over every zombie class including a Mech, just like a Mech is stomping all over every plant class now. This single class alone isn't the only overpowered class either, it just adds to the issue and I'm bored of playing this imbalanced game, it isn't fun or enjoyable for people who enjoy balanced and fun games.
I can understand why it's enjoyable for kids, all the ones on my friends list have mastered all the broken classes and that's all they play.
Your logic is a bit off there. Your list of zombies that can one shot plants can easily be inverted.
I'm still not buying the whole I never see pea/sunflowers deal with mechs efficentially. It happens in all my games, and so it must in other players too. Do I always have my pea gatling or sunbeam on cd if I know there's imps around. Pretty much yes. It has a very short cd compared to the imp mech. If I don't then someone else will, or maybe there's some korn with shuck shot ready etc.
I think that one of the reasons alot of people are against your suggestions in general is that they are geared towards making the classes more symmetrical. Now there's nothing wrong with that per se, and in another shooter that would make the game perfectly balanced. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Part of PvZ's charm is that each class is different, creating two very unique and diverse teams. That is harder to balance no doubt, but it can be achieved asymmetrically.
Maybe think abit more out of the box in regards to balance?
As someone else suggested why not simply increase the CD of the mech? I'd say 7 minutes or so should do it. Begin the counter as soon as the match starts and you won't even see it on most gametypes, and not one on the first capture point of Gardens n Graveyards / Herbal Assault. That would help with balancing Moon Base Z and Zomburbia as well. That sort of nerf would go a long way don't you think?
Most definitely it would.
It still doesn't justify the health value though, and your reply is pretty much what I've been wanting to hear for a long time.
There needs to be some balance and counters, all I'm saying is when plants are on the offensive, these plant counters such as Pea Gatling and Sunbeam are a bit useless. You're not exactly going to root at your spawn point, and even if you root at the enemy capture point that leaves you with one ability down and they've instantly respawn as a Scientist or Super Brainz to come and pop you whilst that cool down is ticking back up...they're not going to come after you with an Imp after you just destroyed their Mech, but even now Imp is so dangerous I've seen plenty gun down my full health Chomper before I even get to damage them, and that is a Gooped Imp as well.
Nobody is able to root at the zombies capture point by the way, I've yet to witness that but if you have I'd love to see it. Teleporters are virtually impossible to keep up due to the current issues regarding Rose and other classes that stomp all over enclosed areas. It's not due to lack of teamwork, it's lack of balance. It might be a tough pill to swallow but you know that's also a major problem in most games.
Your perhaps right about the imp health. I thought the same about reducing it back to 50, and now that Rose is gone he doesn't have the issue of being a free kill as soon as he spawns. Due to his movement he doesn't really need the health as he can be a pain to hit in the right hands. Keep his damage though; wouldn't want to see him made useless and Peashooters still bully him.
Pre patch, I didn't want to feel frustrated at broken Rose or add to the madness by playing her so I didn't really play multiplyer online except when me and a bunch of friends got Party Rose we will went online to use her for a laugh. One game and it felt dirty...
He should be bullied by Peashooter, the same way Peashooter is bullied by Imps big brothers All Star and Super Brainz, and his cousin Soldier...I don't want to see any classes nerfed to a point where they are useless, but it definitely shouldn't be like it is now, with the push of the red button it's insta kill and insta kill on almost everything around him.
Anyway let's call it a day now, let's see what the devs do and take it from there? Of course I'm not saying my piece and running off, I'm just going to be busy for the next few days redecorating and getting my life back into gear, also I bought need for speed and will be playing that as well. I hope upcoming changes bring back the upset players and we will have more opinions to discuss. Also more players to play with online 🙂
