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I'm not sure why you're trying to make a point when I basically agreed with most of what you've said. If my post had been read, you'd see that I agree there can't be a way to say that one side is better than the other.
But how would plants winning 60% of the time not be a fact? It would be incorrect to dismiss it as anything but a fact because that's what the percentages say. What you can't do is formulate any conclusion with certainty from that fact. Also, what if global data on all multiplayer games' outcomes were collected and posted for us to see and it showed that the ratio is 1:1? I think such a ratio might make people reconsider their opinions on which is stronger.
You should really learn to read as I even stated the stats would not have a say in what is what but would be interesting just to see.
I currently like the balance between plants and zombies. I think a few tweaks to some of the new OP zombies will bring perfect balance to the game, the key word being tweaks, not nerfs. Everyone is freaking out about how zombies are now "op", and seem to forget about go nuts, bean decks, heal deck, grass knuckles tempo, pineclone/mushroom decks with camptain combustible and nightcap, etc. There are a ton of options for plants right now, as there were before the update. I think people are just surprised to see zombies winning and are overreacting just a little bit to the new cards. In time, people will find counters to the current zombie meta as plants, and that is how the meta evolves healthily in the game. Just give it time
@UnholyJuggernaut Sure, if you get the perfect draw, it's hard to lose. Especially with your assumption that the plant player will be playing nothing in response...c'mon now
Strategy gets screwed up by card draw, unless your strategy can deal with it.. say 80% of the time. Initial card draw.. can make or break, unless your cards can conjure more cards.. which I do believe they did. However you come across a certain hero, expect cards from the suit that hero has, but no they can have anything..
Just to add more salt - just watched FryEmUp do a Stompadon, Triplication deck with Fossilhead with going viral and out of 10 games in Taco league, 7 conceded before they lost. SO, for those that thought I was just moaning about these Zombies being OP.. plants need a boost, and zombies need a nerf.
I'm pretty sure that I also concede if I am about to lose and can do nothing about it. He also had the same record as he pretty much always does. His only outlier was a 6-4 beta carrotina and 7-3 boogaloo
Most were not on the next turn losing they generally conceded as Fossilhead was too buffed, add going viral.. its game over. High health, and high hit power why on earth does this creature need to be untrickable?
@saintlydevilis I agree with you that fossilhead could use a little nerf. Going viral is not an issue of a card though. Honestly it's a pretty slow move at a 3 cost to not advance board state and only give the same stat boost as stormfront. The key thing that people take up issue with is frenzy. So just pack quick removal into you deck! Not hard. Solar, guardian, and kabloom all have good removal, and smarty has freeze at least. The advantage that mega grow can bring to the table is that it can "out-aggro" pretty much any zombie deck, in conjunction with any class. Personally, I prefer the removal route, with either a freeze deck(jolly holly, winter melon, chili pepper, they all work even against untrickable), or just a deck that packs squashes, berry blasts, that type of thing. If you can get rid of most zombies on the board, going viral doesn't pose a problem, in my eyes.
Trouble is going viral on such high hit and health makes it lethal..going viral makes it frenzy, adds health..and with crypto brains, or medulla or brain vendo you can get extra brains to bring the viral in sooner, plus the card draw.
I played against a UL today and I'm currently 32 ( diamond) I won. But, after doing about 7 consistent wins, suddenly it's win 1, lose 2, win again, lose. When I find a good deck, I play a lot ..as in game after game.. But I've noticed a pattern, with a new deck providing it's good, you can several wins, then slam.. You don't get that consistent win. I even had 2 games where I win cut out, Internet was fine. It's not the first time that's happened, it's happened to me loads of times. It's as if your not allowed to go through the ranks.
Freeze decks, hmm.. Ive tried them but not consistent enough for me. I don't have rose, so tried them with green shadow. Yeah you can win, but not enough to rely on. Ive most of the freeze cards, but not all and I think you probably need them all to be any good.
I think that depends on how long you've been playing. I don't have all the cards, but its not like I half the cards. I don't have all the legendaries, but I can't imagine many do. I've some legendaries that I have 3 of, some 2 of, and of course 1. But when I make a deck, I make it to be as consistent as possible. So generally 3 of each card, or 4 of each card. I can still play a game with that scenario and find I have none of a certain card turn up. I did recycle all my twin sunflowers, (super rare) as I never use them. From that I made a super rare, but then, I need a deck that made extra sun.. and I had been hoping the solar winds card (which I have 1 of) would have completed. But, such is life I never get that in new pack.
I really do wish we could trade in legendaries, to get the one you want.
I wonder why they made some event cards 2000 to craft, and other only a 1000? I crafted a couple that were a 1000, and now they are 20000. But the recycle on those are still the same.
@saintlydevilisit's a good idea to play multiples of some of the cards in your deck. You have the right idea, for sure. That said, how many is all dependant on the deck you're running and cost of the cards. For example, it's almost always a good idea to run four bananasaurus when that is your closing card, but you really shouldn't ever need more than two of, say, cornucopia. Also, try to include cards that have extra value when played, cards draw being Paramount. The more card draw you have, the better your chance of getting to those cards you need. If you'd like, you can post the decks you like running (and it would be really helpful to post your available cards with them) and we can help you tighten them up a bit.
As for the event cards. The ones that cost 2k were only available for sale. They weren't part of an event (from my understanding). That said, they are also exceptionally powerful cards. Most of the ones that cost 2k could easily be legendaries (not all, but cards like leprechaun and zombology teacher, definitely), so while 2k is a lot (and the recycle value is a joke), it's actually a pretty good cost, depending in the card.
@jakeman102201 i don't think that any of the cards themselves need an actual nerf. i think that untrickable itself needs a nerf. if a card is untrickable, that should be it's value, it shouldn't be able to recieve benefit from friendly tricks either. and again... i'd really like to see a silence effect added to this game. with the direction it's headed, eventually there will have to be minions and tricks that can remove lasting effects from other cards. i think either one of these would do wonders for the game without throwing off the balance.
while i do find that the game is balanced at the higher levels of play, i understand how frustrating it can be when you just don't have the cards available to you to take on the threats that the game is throwing at you when new sets launch. i think these changes can help bring more balance back to the game all the way through the ranks without really nerfing any cards along the way, or making them less viable at higher levels of play.
i think he was the first event of this year, available to all. i could be mistaken, though
