Hey guys! Usually after a month of any new cards being released the meta tends to shift one way or another depending on what works. Because I'm a plant main, I do have some balance concerns.&nbsp;Contrary to what's been posted, Zom-Blob and Jurassic Fossilhead is not the current meta. They were popular during the first couple of weeks after release, but people learned how to combat them fast. If you see any professional zombie played on turn one, kill it. You know Fossilhead is coming. If the player uses Zomb-Blob during zombie phase, most of the time it's destroyed by trick phase. It's very rare you'll see a Zom-Blob played on trick phase w/ two double attacks. When it happens, it sucks, but due to its situational playability, the popularity kind of evened out.&nbsp;The current meta is Quickdraw Con Man and&nbsp;Stompadon. I'm noticing these builds gaining extreme popularity. When Quickdraw is coupled w/ Regifting Zombie, it can lead to extremely fast wins. Also, because of set 2 cards focusing on conjuring cards, the plant hero is limited on what he she can do. For Stompadon, coupled w/ Escape through Time and Going Viral, The early game pressure is insane.&nbsp;So how do you balance this? I could suggest making cards that do the same. For every card the zombie draws, you do&nbsp;1 damage to them. For every card you draw, increase all plants by +1/+1 or make all trick cards cost -1 less. However I know that two wrongs don't make a right. Perhaps make a card that doesn't allow the zombies to draw extra cards? That sounds like a Smarty class plant. That could help against Stompadon, but for Quickdraw I don't really have an idea on how best to counter him w/o completely neutering the guy. I don't want him to be worthless, but at the same time I don't like to&nbsp;draw myself to death.&nbsp;With Admiral Navy Bean it was a 1/1/1 card that can literally be destroyed by anything and only hurts the zombie when you actually play another bean, but Quickdraw does damage to you every single turn regardless of playing anything else. To me that sounds a bit OP and I've been seeing more and more&nbsp;Quickdraw decks as the meta steadies out.&nbsp;Just my 2 cents. Would like to hear what you guys have to say. Again, I love this game and don't want to see any cards get neutered, but as of right now the current meta is Zombies and I'm pointing out two trends I'm seeing everyone switching to.

I think they should remove the bullseye on quickdraw con man or decrease his health to 3. Stompadon is a legendary so he is rarely seen anywhere but they should increase his cost or change his ability to activate only at the start of a new turn. Whenever brainstorm on the final plant mission gets stompadon, it leads to a garenteed loss since i cannot handle the incredibly strong zombies.

Round one play plantar warlord good luck destroying it .you can transmog into something else . Round 2 fossil head round 3 2nd fossil head round 4 going viral for the win

I would take away bulls eye from zomblob and make him 4 cost. I would make it where plants and zombies can not be move into or out of and environment . Can not be teleported into an environment. Can not be summoned into an environment. Can not evolution into something in an environment. Fossil head should be 5 or 6 brains

Do you realise you have a very condescending way of writing to people, just because they don't hold the same view. This is a discussion page, and I'm not the only person who has held the view that some of the new set cards are making it pretty tough for plants. We've already established, I've made it to UL most seasons, so yes I can play the game. I do try and imagine what it must be like for players new to the game, and if I'm finding it tough - then you can be sure that others will. I do read other forums, and watch video's or streamers on this game. So, I know I'm not talking *. IF you know the answer to the problems that others are having, then its NICE to share, and help.. its not obligatory, of course. No one is commanding anyone. I don't recall demanding an answer from a specific person. So, if my post has troubled you.. perhaps,.... just perhaps that is your own person issue.Cute eh? :-P

I like your suggestions! Taking away the bullseye would balance him pretty good since it would then only work like Admiral Navy Bean where you could retaliate through block meter! Also, because it's a one cost card, changing its health to 3 is a good suggestion as well since there are more than enough cards that can kill a zombie with 3 damage! That wouldn't completely neuter the card either!Also I like your idea of only allowing Stompadon's ability to work only on the new turn phase! That would also not neuter him, but add real balance! I think Dino Roar then needs to be addressed as probably the main culprit to fix all things.Can everyone give @RedPlanitMars xp? He just gave really good suggestions that I would like the devs to consider.

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Anonymous
8 years ago
I think they should remove the bullseye on quickdraw con man or decrease his health to 3. Stompadon is a legendary so he is rarely seen anywhere but they should increase his cost or change his ability to activate only at the start of a new turn. Whenever brainstorm on the final plant mission gets stompadon, it leads to a garenteed loss since i cannot handle the incredibly strong zombies.
ThCakeIsALie
8 years ago
I like your suggestions! Taking away the bullseye would balance him pretty good since it would then only work like Admiral Navy Bean where you could retaliate through block meter! Also, because it's a one cost card, changing its health to 3 is a good suggestion as well since there are more than enough cards that can kill a zombie with 3 damage! That wouldn't completely neuter the card either!

Also I like your idea of only allowing Stompadon's ability to work only on the new turn phase! That would also not neuter him, but add real balance! I think Dino Roar then needs to be addressed as probably the main culprit to fix all things.

Can everyone give @RedPlanitMars xp? He just gave really good suggestions that I would like the devs to consider.
Anonymous
8 years ago
Round one play plantar warlord good luck destroying it .you can transmog into something else . Round 2 fossil head round 3 2nd fossil head round 4 going viral for the win
Anonymous
8 years ago
I would take away bulls eye from zomblob and make him 4 cost. I would make it where plants and zombies can not be move into or out of and environment . Can not be teleported into an environment. Can not be summoned into an environment. Can not evolution into something in an environment. Fossil head should be 5 or 6 brains
saintlydevilis
8 years ago
Con man needs to be a 1/3 then he is able to be dealt with sooner. At the moment I think the only plant that can take him out immediately is the haunted pumpkin which still gives the zombies a benefit -a free card. But Haunted pumpkin is only available to solar suit.
Dino Roar is giving to much buff to, too many zombies especially when you consider zombies can protect, have extra brains, plumber, rocket, kill all species extinct, alien ooze, change in zombie up one in health and hit power, go viral, etc.. It is too much, as its making it too easy for zombies, and hard for plants to fight back. AND before the usual replies come in saying oh your not using the right plants, or this plant can do this.. and its not happening that much. IT IS happening, and yep every zombie wants Dino Roar and there are gradually more and more of them appearing. I play every day, and yes I've adapted my Wall knight, and sometimes I am lucky to win. BUT, sorry its not balanced..as its now seriously tough unless you've quite a large selection of cards to fight back with (as in some legendaries, super rares).
I seriously wonder why the Developers keep making these blunders of making various new cards too powerful, without realising.. then having to nerf them in someway. Do they not realise, that if a card is seen as able to get that win easier, that others will recycle other cards to ensure they can have this all singing and dancing card? Or buy several packs to get the cards? and use the trash cards recycled to get a Blob, Fossilhead, Dino Roar, Con man?
The Colossal cards have given the zombies their day, but I think they didn't do enough for the plants.. which is why, there are posts here and in other forums saying they need to be nerfed, toned down a bit. Or failing that, give the plants something to deal with that early onslaught, or power as well.
If those who keep replying its not necessary - well your lucky to either have cards to deal with it, or you dont come across as aggressive players. Instead of saying me and others are wrong. Show US what your doing, and the zombies your using it against.
daalnnii
8 years ago
@saintlydevilis there is a way to view your collection, you should look at it and study what the cards can do. that said, I'll start you off with stompadon and have already started you with cards like Fossilhead. If you can't figure it out from there because you either are too lazy to look and build on your own, or just don't have these cards; how is that anyone's problem but yours?

Whack a zombie. What does that do, saintly? What turn can that be played? And stompadon? You can't find a 3 cost combination team up either?

Huh...

Just because you don't have it didn't want to include these options in your current decks, doesn't mean they're not there. It's your choice to go into a match during blanks.

Also, those of us having "luck" (yup it's luck I've made it to ult every season using just plants, you nailed it. It's not even possible maybe we just better players than you) don't have to teach you to play the game. You want to tell us how won't we are, you show us what your playing ineffectively and maybe we can tell you where you can improve, but I don't need your help and don't have to show you my deck. But I like getting commands from players who can't figure out the game. It's cute.
saintlydevilis
8 years ago
Do you realise you have a very condescending way of writing to people, just because they don't hold the same view. This is a discussion page, and I'm not the only person who has held the view that some of the new set cards are making it pretty tough for plants. We've already established, I've made it to UL most seasons, so yes I can play the game. I do try and imagine what it must be like for players new to the game, and if I'm finding it tough - then you can be sure that others will. I do read other forums, and watch video's or streamers on this game. So, I know I'm not talking *.
IF you know the answer to the problems that others are having, then its NICE to share, and help.. its not obligatory, of course. No one is commanding anyone. I don't recall demanding an answer from a specific person. So, if my post has troubled you.. perhaps,.... just perhaps that is your own person issue.
Cute eh? :-P
Anonymous
8 years ago
The fixes that don't fully wreck the cards but still keep them very good:
quickdraw: reduce health to 3 so he can be killed with berry blast and/or meteor
stompy: change the "dinoroar" in the card description to instead only trigger upon drawing the second, third, or fourth, etc. card each turn, that way it doesn't trigger on the automatic, each-turn card draw, and triggers only upon spending brains to draw cards. It's cost could also be increased to 4 in addition to this nerf.
I've heard some people say it's health should be reduced to 3, but I disagree. Having such a key card to a deck be able to be berry blasted/meteored for a POSITIVE TRADE would ruin the card
Just my thoughts, please give feedback
daalnnii
8 years ago
"If those who keep replying its not necessary - well your lucky to either have cards to deal with it, or you dont come across as aggressive players. Instead of saying me and others are wrong. Show US what your doing, and the zombies your using it against."

That's you! Both condescending and a command, by the way.

Just saying... You all want to talk to people exactly how you like, but when they do it to you in return you get upset?

Did you ever take psychology? Do you know when people do what you all are doing? When they're confronted with the truth. Anyways. You all have a good one.

You're right, I could give you answers, but I'm a veteran and was taught that when to find your own answers you grow more. I've given you a few already. Now use that collection page to learn how to overcome your item obstacles.... And maybe try to overcome some of them before coming here screaming for nerfs. Besides that, you've argued against our help every step of the way. Now you want us to show you our decks? Do you want me to build and play them for you too? When does the responsibility lie with you to improve your standing?
saintlydevilis
8 years ago
Actually, each time I've said something that about the game that feels like there is a problem with it, like initial card draw, miraculously cards that are conjured to counteract the opponent fit. Or the OP that is currently happening on the zombie side, you have been the one coming back saying oh no it isn't .. that its me, who apparently can't find fight back with the right card, at the right time. Well, I knew I wasn't the only person coming across zombies that are OP. I even asked at one time, if anyone in here worked for EA.. Why? Because it seems as though your not allowed to say anything against the game. Like, how dare I say something like that, I must be a complete idiot. Actually, I have made to UL several seasons, I have been playing the game quite a long time, I do play regularly, I am well aware of the card collection. I know when, my deck isn't working, and I alter it to fit.. But I can also see when the win ratio is getting less and less no matter what cards you change, or if the synergy of the cards doesn't work.
You our may well be perfectly happy with all the cards, and win every other game- fine it works for you. But it quite clearly isn't working for others. So rather than the issue being me, or anyone else who dares to say anything you don't like. I asked for those who it is working for to explain, show what exactly it is they are doing.. But you'd rather trade insults, and say it's the players that complain that are the problem. It's pathetic. As I said before, I will sit, watch and wait for the rest of the posts to come through.. And gues what I didn't wait long.