The difference is insane but what now?
https://www.reddit.com/r/PvZGardenWarfare/comments/us21k8/bfn_was_released_on_steam_in_2019_gw2_was/ Bfn sits at 75% positive of 243 users recently and 73% positive of 6,652 all time since 2019 Gw...
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Garden Warfare 2 coming to Steam was very random, although a welcoming addition as players have wanted it to be on Steam for a really long time. I find it quite interesting that a number of small changes have been happening with the shooters, such as the Steam release and the GeForce update. I do not want to really hint at anything right now, but I do hope that these small, although relatively frequent, changes with the shooters possibly mean something. Rux was fixed and small updates have come out for the shooters, although they did not add any content that I was ever aware of.
As we are on the topic here, I do want to mention that I would still really like to see a Garden Warfare 3 in the future. The release on Steam means that there will be an influx of new players on the PC platform of Garden Warfare 2. I can state for sure that there are still new players on the console platforms of the shooters as well, and I have returned to playing Garden Warfare 2 much more often now (and it has been very enjoyable). Having a Garden Warfare 3 play out like the older shooters, with some new and returning features, would be great and the game would likely perform well, because the shooters already has a large player base.
The shooters are still great games, even with some content discontinued and some achievements unobtainable. I still think these issues should be addressed and sorted, although despite these and some bugs present in the shooters, the shooters are still great games and will continue to be. The shooters still have a great amount of potential, so we should not be done yet. This leads me to speak about Plants vs Zombies 3: the beta came out a while ago and I tried it. I actually really enjoyed and thought the game was quite great so far, however the same cannot be said for everyone else. I believe that most of the community was not really happy with the beta. If it does not perform very well, that could be bad news for the shooters, however if the full release does do well, that would be good incentive to come back to the shooters as well (these are my opinions anyway).
@TheSprinter85 We can only see if a gw3 will one day truly happen.
I think the greatest challenge to pvz 3 is pvz2 imo because you have to justify it existing as a sequel over its predecessors, especially with all the content they added to 2 over the years (imo something I also think really plagued bfn as looking back there isnt really much that changed on a technical level like gamemodes and how they played out even with the over watch style characters and features th at are worse than even gw1 like ops). I enjoyed the little I could play of the alpha but it did feel off at times (couldnt get the beta) and i hope popcap can truly step up because the fanbase and the series as a whole really needs a win right now.
I think the greatest challenge to pvz 3 is pvz2 imo because you have to justify it existing as a sequel over its predecessors, especially with all the content they added to 2 over the years (imo something I also think really plagued bfn as looking back there isnt really much that changed on a technical level like gamemodes and how they played out even with the over watch style characters and features th at are worse than even gw1 like ops). I enjoyed the little I could play of the alpha but it did feel off at times (couldnt get the beta) and i hope popcap can truly step up because the fanbase and the series as a whole really needs a win right now.
- @stukapooka That is so true. The franchise as a whole has been suffering lately, due to cancellation of updates to the shooters, heroes and Plants vs Zombies 3 getting plenty of negative reviews so far (although I generally still see positives from those reviews). I hope that Plants vs Zombies 3 can be pulled back, so that by the time the full release comes, the community will be satisfied with the changes (and hopefully that game will get updates as well).
I wish Plants vs Zombies 3 luck on its success, as that would be great accomplishment for the whole franchise right now.- @TheSprinter85 I generally see positive reviews for heroes but almost everyone agrees that it got yeeted into the void right when it was on the verge of greatness (the empty hero slots and shafting of BC and HG for example).
I feel pvz3 will be a breaking point of the series or atleast the epilogue of it after bfn's failure. I'll try and judge it on its own merits first but i'm also not gonna toss any aspect of pvz1/2 that was superior out the window for it when it realeases (can we please have minigames again popcap!).I don't get why Heroes basically dropped off the end of the radar as it is a fun game that really is a nice combo of the PvZ IP and games like Magic: The Gathering. I haven't played since they basically abandoned it, but it's a genuinely fun game.
I like PvZ2, but miss the minigames from the original PvZ, and the microtransactions and serious cheater issue in the arena drove me away. In some ways it is better than the original, but I overall find the original a better experience.
I will definitely give PvZ3 a look when it launches. I hope it's good and isn't egregious in its monetary system. The fact that they took the feedback of the first version we had exposure to and made changes is a good sign, but time will tell.
PvZ is such a popular IP that I don't know they don't do a better job on the games than they are currently doing. Just seeing how amazing GW2 is doing on Steam right now with no real advertising speaks volumes. Just assigning a small team to the game to give us better town hall events, community challenges, and banning cheaters would go a long, long way to getting some good will, and if they also did some extra balancing and fixing some bugs, it would be amazing.
I'd love to know why so many games here, not just PvZ titles, but other EA games as well, are just suddenly left on their own. If a game is doing well and is popular, why cut it off and leave it in maintenance mode? the old saying of you have to spend money to make money truly applies here. Again, I can't speak for everyone, but had they not made BfN or even a GW3, but just kept supporting GW2 with new maps (and bringing back more GW maps, although adjust them so we can play all characters on them), balancing, bug squishing, new variants, and so on, the game would be in a great state today.
