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9 years ago
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Tired of bots in the ranked ladder

To those who don't know it: Plants vs. Zombies Heroes playerbase has been drastically reduced because of their greedy policy: feeling themselves unable to progress because of p2w and early access decks they face and too slow pace of gems farm you need to get packs to improve your deck, people started leaving the game. We can see it when Plants vs. Zombies Heroes was dropped from the top 150 popular games in App Store despite being heavily advertised.

It resulted in very very long queue for taco and ultimate league and horrible matchmaking when taco/ultimate players were paired with wood or silver league players. There were a lot of threads about mismatching at relevant forums/websites. You should remember experiencing it yourself. 

Then EA has found a solution: bots. A lot of bots from single play, decks filled with good cards and what the most important, really good luck, put into taco/ultimate ladder so you will always have someone to play with. I understand it's really tinfoil material but it's too much of a coincidence otherwise. 

How to spot a bot:

1. You get a bot against you only if you have waited for a considerably long time (25-35 seconds): you usually were matched with a player far higher or far lower at this point (ultimate or wood/silver if you're taco) but now you get a player from tako +-1 rank from you. So long time of waiting but you get a matching rank player.

2. Default name (extremely important!) which suddenly changes to another one (quite nonsensical) during the last second of the screen where heroes are against each other. Example: Torchwood changes to another name or Green_Shadow (I don't know about underscore but it was there) changes to another name. It never happens when you play against humans.

3. Really stupid moves. Control Solar Flare sunburning my face the first round? Seriously? Wall-knight playing geyser without plants and being on 17 HP? Don't make me laugh please.

4. Abnormal, abysmal, unbelievable luck. They have all the answers to your plays they need. Kabloom heroes start with 2 berry blasts, their shield is never triggered by 1 (or very very rarely) etc. etc. Freeze green shadow has shuffled 2 beanstalks into deck turn 2 then played 2 beanstalks turn 3. Torchwood played 3 bananasaurus in a row.

They sometimes lose because of stupid decisions they make but it's really hard to win against them because of the luck factor being dominant in PVZH. 

I understand it could be just my delusion and it could exist a bunch of bad but really lucky players who has reached tacoand progress there just because of that, but it doesn't explain the fact you encounter them after LONG waiting (when you were mismatched already before) or the fact their name is being changed (and I bet generated) ad hoc.

The chance to get a bot is usually higher once you are close to 20 stars, usually from 14 to 20, but I am only rank 45 so I have only 4 ranks of observations.

  • megraam's avatar
    megraam
    9 years ago

    @GargantuarFeast wrote:

    If many believes that there is a bot, then it is a conclusion that the community is being wary about bots and that we need clarification from ea


    This is the exact point of this thread: make the community be wary of the bots possibility and pay more attention to their game when they see a name of opponent suddenly changed from generic to random one.

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  • I vote bot existence,too. And when i finally going to win (i played plant side), when it is zombie trick phase, it took time to desire for so long and...... "it seems you have a problem with your connection" 2 in a row !! ( oddly, it happened when i was about to win both times, not during mid game or first 2-3 turns, and I can play other games with connection perfectly.) 

    Tolerance to deception and sore-losing (and from soulless bot , seriously? ) is about to reach its limit if there's no fix or at least apologyfrom here.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    9 years ago

    @GrinningRuiner wrote:

    @rg9551 wrote:
    Spoiler
    yesterday i had 1 health and my opponent transformed his laser bean ( with strikethrough of 4 ) into a random plant. he wd have won for sure had he not transformed his laser bean..i fail to understand why he did it!! must hv bn a bot..

    Hahahaha. The only conclusion.........BOTS!

    A few months back for a very short period of time, I wondered if there were bots in the game.

    How could my opponent make such terrible moves and still end up winning....?

    Then I looked over at my 5 year-old sitting next to me on the couch playing this game and getting wins. He can't even read what the cards say!

    But through dumb luck, he would win every third or fourth game.

    People forget that everyone isn't just like them, and luck, both extremely good and extremely bad are very much a part of this game.


    I love how he completely ignored you and dillo. The all mighty megraam simply can't admit to the fact that he might be wrong about something 😇

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Guys, we need more votes

  • I can definitely confirm there are bots in ranked. I just played a Smash bot named "Gargantuar" twice in a row. The first time he was rank 31, then I leveled up after beating him, and he was rank 35 in the next match. Had all the other characteristics listed in OP.

    This is BS. I don't care if I have to wait to play vs a human, but I sure as hell don't want to play against an overpowered luck-driven bot.

  • megraam's avatar
    megraam
    9 years ago

    Just to mention these bots suddenly disappeared two weeks ago or so when I reached ultimate. Now I have long queues again and matched with gold or diamond league afterwards, this is why I play really really rare now.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Place your votes in pls. 

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