Zombies are not Balanced
Zombies are not balanced(...again). There is so much to talk about I don't even know where to start. They are way stronger than the plants. I was on something around a 7 to 8 game loss streak as the ...
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The main reason for why playing zombies is easier right now is because starting players first have access to plants, so they play more plants, so a zombie player is likely to be matched against a lower rank plan player who has fewer cards and knows the game less well. The opposite happens with plants. Due to the long wait times, high ranked players are only playing with zombies and thus it is more likely that a plant player will be matched against a higher ranked player.
As far as balancing, I promise you that it might feel unbalanced, but once you get to know the cards and tricks better you'll see that actually it is quite well balanced. Playing creatures second gives plants a very big advantage over zombies and playing tricks first allows plants to buff their own plants and kill zombies before you can buff them or do bonus attacks to finish the game. Once you start getting matches against higher ranked plant players, you'll see just how potent they are, or you may find that yourself as you gain experience.
You should probably know that most veterans consider plants to be the slightly more powerful faction due to some rather nasty tricks they have at the higher rarities, but even just with commons and uncommons they are pretty much on par.
Also, here are a few counters:
Arm Wrestler -> any direct damage or debuf. or Bonk Choy at 1 sun. You can also Combo something like Snowdrop and Iceberg Lettuce. Don't worry if they play it first turn and you don't have an imediate counter, they eventually come up. Another good counter is actually Pea Pod. If they played the wrestler turn 1, you can play your Pea Pod and your's will automatically grow, no questions asked. then they have to deal with it but you can buff it, move it or block it and they are in trouble.
Tennis ZOmbie, ignore its first attack, then just leave it there to fill up your block meter.
Gravestones ->Gravebuster obviously, and if you don't have it then you need to know what it might be (this takes some experience) but its just a question of playing in front of, or not.
Chicken Mascot imp is a risk for the zombie player. If they play it at 3 brains, they run the risk of it bein taken down by something like Shrowm for two plus BUff-shroom (a deadly combo that counters a lot of things) or simply a Zapricot.
While its true that certain matchups are harder, it goes both ways.
great write up gabochidillo
also to add plants have a bunch of mechanics that zombies do not such as strikethrough, team up, splash and freeze.
but there are a couple of problematic cards with zombies, my current deck rarely loses as i keep abusing valkyrie and teleport to one shot kill them for 4 brains pretty consistently.
@marobaro wrote:
great write up gabochidillo
also to add plants have a bunch of mechanics that zombies do not such as strikethrough, team up, splash and freeze.
but there are a couple of problematic cards with zombies, my current deck rarely loses as i keep abusing valkyrie and teleport to one shot kill them for 4 brains pretty consistently.
Zombies have the Hot Dog Imp which is strikethrough, Team Up is easily countered by FRENZY and cards like the chicken stampede and Weed Spray, splash seems good but splash plants like the Lightning Reed are super rare. Freezing is good, but even Brain Freeze can do that. The only special thing plants have is Team Up. But even if you are using Wall-Nuts and defensive plants, the zombies also have the Deadly power to ignore all of it.
I think we are all arguing with Dino, because plants don't get enough credit, and a lot of us long time players have learned how to get wins with them. But ultimately, he is right. Zombies are better. When I'm actively trying to rank up I always play as zombies. They are much more consistent than the plants.
Dino is also right about the Arm Wrestler. He is overpowered for sure. Keeping the same boosting mechanics, but starting him at 1/2 instead of 2/2 would still be very useful but much more fair.
