Railway items are needed everywhere but take too long to get. I won't pay for railway currency.Airport shipments, repairing disaster zones, war deliveries, etcThis is a big slowdown and annoyance to Contest of Mayor (CoM) tasksTrain deployment gives a small amount of currency and takes hours between deployments. Result is I need railway items for CoM tasks way faster than I can get them, and I won't buy railway currency. CoM is just slower and more annoyingAdding railway is a fun idea but practically is a big headacheI like the idea of mass transit. Fits the spirit of being a mayor of Sim City. Figure out how to give your citizens this benefitIf you've spent a lot of time optimizing your city layout, you kind of have to blow things upE.g. you have to make some sacrifices, give up population boosting buildings to make way for railroad tracks and/or spread out your Residential Zones (RZs) to new areas.. but maybe you're out of space and or need new police stations etc.Couldn't the train stations be smaller? And or more flexible with positioning?Would have been cool to have a new layer like a subway that only minimally disrupted your existing layout.The way it is now, I'd rather skip it altogether. Especially because of point 3 below, but I can't because of point 1 above...The system is confusingIt's unclear if there is any benefit to where you rout your railroad. The residential zones (RZs) right next to your train station itself get included in the train station radius, and that seems to determine the number of people that feed into your station?But what's the point of having lots of people waiting for a train if the only way to make trains come faster is to pay sim cash? If there is no benefit to where you rout your railroad tracks, why not just do a tiny loop around the station? Thats probably not in the spirit of what was intended.Maybe it'd make more sense for your system to be operable if you connect two different stations? If I'm a citizen, what's the benefit of a single train station.. only 1 stop. I can go in a ride and end up where I started. If the tracks run by my RZ but the station is far away, I'll still yell at mayor about wanting mass transit.As is, with 3 train stations I've added so far, I'd say like 1 to 2% of my RZs can access it. And I don't know what the benefit to me (the mayor) is other than running straight into a paywall per point 1 aboveDiscussion and insights welcome

If the train system were completely optional - I would have a completely different feeling about the train systems. I don't know how I can make this any simpler for the creators / developers of the game to understand this: you have made the game way too bloody complicated, and if certain groups of players want a feature added, go ahead and add it, but don't make it complicated or compulsory for all players. There are too many currencies to track, too many complications to go through all for the purpose of designing a city when I am bored.To the owners of the intellectual property and the developers who create the mechanics of the game: what in the world are you trying to achieve? I just want a simple fun city building game, which was Sim City when I was a child. Initially I was delighted when I found SimCity BuildIt. but why does it have wars, why do I have to do export rows? This is all just too bloody complicated and I am incredibly angry at the treatment players are receiving for playing the game with useless complicated mechanics. I will go play a war game if I want to fight in wars, stop making me participate in wars by means of the milestone and CoM tasks. I refuse to watch ads, and I will not pay money for anything in the game. I am also spending a lot more time in the game for the simple fact of using up bandwidth and not generating any income.

Yep, point #1 is causing everyone i know that does war (experienced people that usually pay real $ to upgrade cards) to consider quitting game entirely. EA need sot make train stations optional from a game design perspective, not compulsory affecting every activity that is being pursued. EA, if you are listening, gamers will spend money and their time based on value of play. I am sure you know this concept. However, you aren't practicing it. The algorithms you employ are totally gamed to make everything harder already, the game takes way too much time to compete, and now you wan tto make it even harder while reducing the already paltry rewards. I will tell you what will happen now. 1. Players already vowing to no longer pay for Mayor premium pass anymore (almost everyone i know)2. Quit game entirely (this is mostly due to train parts for war repairs, deliveries, com tasks)3. And now, many are taking about going and becoming a cheater and hacking the game.Great job EA alienating your most loyal players and instead of actually addressing the hacking issue already rampant, you are encouraging more people to go that route. For me, after 7 years, this weekend if my last war. The train parts are a non starter for me. It also appears that the rest of my team feels the same way. I'll check back on next season to see if EA comes to their senses, but as of now, not going down this road further after getting a taste of where its going.

Good feedback @sharchael 1. War repairs and getting war items are requesting multiple bolts and conductor hats, none available in the limited railway shop which only refreshes every 24 hours. Mayors need the ability to manufacture these items if they are to be in high demand. 2. what mass transit system in the world only runs trains every 2.5 hours and with only 20 passengers from one station. Need ability to add carriages and add more passengers. I think when a new station is added then it should come with another train otherwise what’s the point of the additional passenger slots for requiring sim dollars.3. I add the mass transit to my limestone region, but since you can only build a limited number of stations I can’t add mass transit to other regions… nothing ‘mass’ about that… more stations required or ability to have a mass transit in each region and capital city. 4. what is the actual point of the bolts and conductor hats, I thought this would be to build something rail related… is that a feature coming?5. The stations are large yet the influence to attract passengers is small, can this be expanded?6. Doesn’t look like adding stations increases the sim populations in its sphere of influence, it should.7. adding mass transit into well established cities is destructive. Would have been better to have a combination of tramways that can be laid on roads with the ability to link with railway or to have a raised railway track over roads… maybe linking it into the omega maglev system?8. Railway bridges / tunnels please.9. maybe a subway system should also be an option.10. Inter-region mass transit could be an interesting feature.11. Railway shop items too expensive in relation to the coins generated in dispatching the train.overall I like the concept but much more thought could have gone into this beta release

@sharchael Why not just make this an underground metro system? This would suit the spirit of the game better and not require me to blow things ups. This is badly thought out

I cannot find a way to increase passengers per trip. 2 1/2 hours to move 20 people??

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sharchael

Seasoned Rookie

2 years ago

Beta feedback - Mass Transit System

Railway items are needed everywhere but take too long to get. I won't pay for railway currency.
1. Airport shipments, repairing disaster zones, war deliveries, etc
2. This is a big slowdown and annoyance to Contest of Mayor (CoM) tasks
3. Train deployment gives a small amount of currency and takes hours between deployments.
4. Result is I need railway items for CoM tasks way faster than I can get them, and I won't buy railway currency. CoM is just slower and more annoying
Adding railway is a fun idea but practically is a big headache
1. I like the idea of mass transit. Fits the spirit of being a mayor of Sim City. Figure out how to give your citizens this benefit
2. If you've spent a lot of time optimizing your city layout, you kind of have to blow things up
3. E.g. you have to make some sacrifices, give up population boosting buildings to make way for railroad tracks and/or spread out your Residential Zones (RZs) to new areas.. but maybe you're out of space and or need new police stations etc.
4. Couldn't the train stations be smaller? And or more flexible with positioning?
5. Would have been cool to have a new layer like a subway that only minimally disrupted your existing layout.
6. The way it is now, I'd rather skip it altogether. Especially because of point 3 below, but I can't because of point 1 above...
The system is confusing
1. It's unclear if there is any benefit to where you rout your railroad. The residential zones (RZs) right next to your train station itself get included in the train station radius, and that seems to determine the number of people that feed into your station?
2. But what's the point of having lots of people waiting for a train if the only way to make trains come faster is to pay sim cash?
3. If there is no benefit to where you rout your railroad tracks, why not just do a tiny loop around the station? Thats probably not in the spirit of what was intended.
4. Maybe it'd make more sense for your system to be operable if you connect two different stations? If I'm a citizen, what's the benefit of a single train station.. only 1 stop. I can go in a ride and end up where I started. If the tracks run by my RZ but the station is far away, I'll still yell at mayor about wanting mass transit.
5. As is, with 3 train stations I've added so far, I'd say like 1 to 2% of my RZs can access it. And I don't know what the benefit to me (the mayor) is other than running straight into a paywall per point 1 above

Discussion and insights welcome

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OwlsKite
2 years ago
It has been a few weeks since my last report. I want to mention that I am an experienced player, this is my 5th city. I started playing a couple of months after SC was created. I've had a few clubs. The first club I created was a no-war club, 3 years later I learned about war. I was fortunate to learn from skilled war players. Played a lot of exciting games. SC has gone through many changes.
My interest in SC had gone down somewhat, that is until I saw the beta train testing. I started a new club directly after. I am highly interested in where EA goes with this new system.
Regional items on top of Capital items became too much. I do not like regions for that reason. Simply put, there are seriously way too many items in play. I left that city behind and never looked back. With that being said, ... having trains travel from the capital to regions would be an AWESOME site!! (IF there were NO regional items, lol)
SC has a lot of items in play. With this new beta I feel EA should have given a certain amount of train $ to use in creating 'tracks... earning more train $ along the way to continue building it. Something reasonable of course. The infrastructure of Tracks & roads always needs work done. Train $ should be earned and used to deal with the train system. Capital items are available in the global HQ. Why would anyone want to waste their train $ (which takes time to earn) on regular capital items that you can get from global, club member, friend, or make?
Although yes I did spend real money on the train- what EA does with this diamond in the rough will determine whether I spend any more going forward. Such fabulous opportunities for the Train System. *****I hope when it IS released ... many of us become happily surprised and eager to continue playing SC with a worthwhile Train System ;-) SC is by far one of my favorite games.
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Seasoned Hotshot
2 years ago
I had to cropthe immage, oh my…… they release the mass transit! Its dutch, but theytell” do you hear the train whistle” wow.
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Rising Scout
2 years ago
Would like to thank the developers for finally giving me my life back, based on feed back this is awful and i have no interest in destroying my city to add this crap. Christmas came early this year!
Hoonyah
2 years ago
You nailed it. Way to ruin a potentially cool feature. I don't understand the point of trains. What does it add to your city?
It's so unintuitive-- Station (at least the first one) is too big. Tracks don't integrate with roads. Can't place a building along tracks, still need a road. My city is far too finished to make room or replace anything with trains. Too bad cuz trains around the city would be glorious.
I would place them in expansion territories but I am focusing on reaching 10M residents to unlock final expansion. Trains actively work against that goal, given the sheer space these things use, with no population boost.
Seriously, what were they thinking?
AWFUL IMPLEMENTATION EA AND TRACKTWENTY

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