Railway items are needed everywhere but take too long to get. I won't pay for railway currency.Airport shipments, repairing disaster zones, war deliveries, etcThis is a big slowdown and annoyance to Contest of Mayor (CoM) tasksTrain deployment gives a small amount of currency and takes hours between deployments. Result is I need railway items for CoM tasks way faster than I can get them, and I won't buy railway currency. CoM is just slower and more annoyingAdding railway is a fun idea but practically is a big headacheI like the idea of mass transit. Fits the spirit of being a mayor of Sim City. Figure out how to give your citizens this benefitIf you've spent a lot of time optimizing your city layout, you kind of have to blow things upE.g. you have to make some sacrifices, give up population boosting buildings to make way for railroad tracks and/or spread out your Residential Zones (RZs) to new areas.. but maybe you're out of space and or need new police stations etc.Couldn't the train stations be smaller? And or more flexible with positioning?Would have been cool to have a new layer like a subway that only minimally disrupted your existing layout.The way it is now, I'd rather skip it altogether. Especially because of point 3 below, but I can't because of point 1 above...The system is confusingIt's unclear if there is any benefit to where you rout your railroad. The residential zones (RZs) right next to your train station itself get included in the train station radius, and that seems to determine the number of people that feed into your station?But what's the point of having lots of people waiting for a train if the only way to make trains come faster is to pay sim cash? If there is no benefit to where you rout your railroad tracks, why not just do a tiny loop around the station? Thats probably not in the spirit of what was intended.Maybe it'd make more sense for your system to be operable if you connect two different stations? If I'm a citizen, what's the benefit of a single train station.. only 1 stop. I can go in a ride and end up where I started. If the tracks run by my RZ but the station is far away, I'll still yell at mayor about wanting mass transit.As is, with 3 train stations I've added so far, I'd say like 1 to 2% of my RZs can access it. And I don't know what the benefit to me (the mayor) is other than running straight into a paywall per point 1 aboveDiscussion and insights welcome

If the train system were completely optional - I would have a completely different feeling about the train systems. I don't know how I can make this any simpler for the creators / developers of the game to understand this: you have made the game way too bloody complicated, and if certain groups of players want a feature added, go ahead and add it, but don't make it complicated or compulsory for all players. There are too many currencies to track, too many complications to go through all for the purpose of designing a city when I am bored.To the owners of the intellectual property and the developers who create the mechanics of the game: what in the world are you trying to achieve? I just want a simple fun city building game, which was Sim City when I was a child. Initially I was delighted when I found SimCity BuildIt. but why does it have wars, why do I have to do export rows? This is all just too bloody complicated and I am incredibly angry at the treatment players are receiving for playing the game with useless complicated mechanics. I will go play a war game if I want to fight in wars, stop making me participate in wars by means of the milestone and CoM tasks. I refuse to watch ads, and I will not pay money for anything in the game. I am also spending a lot more time in the game for the simple fact of using up bandwidth and not generating any income.

Yep, point #1 is causing everyone i know that does war (experienced people that usually pay real $ to upgrade cards) to consider quitting game entirely. EA need sot make train stations optional from a game design perspective, not compulsory affecting every activity that is being pursued. EA, if you are listening, gamers will spend money and their time based on value of play. I am sure you know this concept. However, you aren't practicing it. The algorithms you employ are totally gamed to make everything harder already, the game takes way too much time to compete, and now you wan tto make it even harder while reducing the already paltry rewards. I will tell you what will happen now. 1. Players already vowing to no longer pay for Mayor premium pass anymore (almost everyone i know)2. Quit game entirely (this is mostly due to train parts for war repairs, deliveries, com tasks)3. And now, many are taking about going and becoming a cheater and hacking the game.Great job EA alienating your most loyal players and instead of actually addressing the hacking issue already rampant, you are encouraging more people to go that route. For me, after 7 years, this weekend if my last war. The train parts are a non starter for me. It also appears that the rest of my team feels the same way. I'll check back on next season to see if EA comes to their senses, but as of now, not going down this road further after getting a taste of where its going.

Good feedback @sharchael 1. War repairs and getting war items are requesting multiple bolts and conductor hats, none available in the limited railway shop which only refreshes every 24 hours. Mayors need the ability to manufacture these items if they are to be in high demand. 2. what mass transit system in the world only runs trains every 2.5 hours and with only 20 passengers from one station. Need ability to add carriages and add more passengers. I think when a new station is added then it should come with another train otherwise what’s the point of the additional passenger slots for requiring sim dollars.3. I add the mass transit to my limestone region, but since you can only build a limited number of stations I can’t add mass transit to other regions… nothing ‘mass’ about that… more stations required or ability to have a mass transit in each region and capital city. 4. what is the actual point of the bolts and conductor hats, I thought this would be to build something rail related… is that a feature coming?5. The stations are large yet the influence to attract passengers is small, can this be expanded?6. Doesn’t look like adding stations increases the sim populations in its sphere of influence, it should.7. adding mass transit into well established cities is destructive. Would have been better to have a combination of tramways that can be laid on roads with the ability to link with railway or to have a raised railway track over roads… maybe linking it into the omega maglev system?8. Railway bridges / tunnels please.9. maybe a subway system should also be an option.10. Inter-region mass transit could be an interesting feature.11. Railway shop items too expensive in relation to the coins generated in dispatching the train.overall I like the concept but much more thought could have gone into this beta release

@sharchael Why not just make this an underground metro system? This would suit the spirit of the game better and not require me to blow things ups. This is badly thought out

I cannot find a way to increase passengers per trip. 2 1/2 hours to move 20 people??

sharchael

2 years ago

Beta feedback - Mass Transit System

Railway items are needed everywhere but take too long to get. I won't pay for railway currency.
1. Airport shipments, repairing disaster zones, war deliveries, etc
2. This is a big slowdown and annoyance to Contest of Mayor (CoM) tasks
3. Train deployment gives a small amount of currency and takes hours between deployments.
4. Result is I need railway items for CoM tasks way faster than I can get them, and I won't buy railway currency. CoM is just slower and more annoying
Adding railway is a fun idea but practically is a big headache
1. I like the idea of mass transit. Fits the spirit of being a mayor of Sim City. Figure out how to give your citizens this benefit
2. If you've spent a lot of time optimizing your city layout, you kind of have to blow things up
3. E.g. you have to make some sacrifices, give up population boosting buildings to make way for railroad tracks and/or spread out your Residential Zones (RZs) to new areas.. but maybe you're out of space and or need new police stations etc.
4. Couldn't the train stations be smaller? And or more flexible with positioning?
5. Would have been cool to have a new layer like a subway that only minimally disrupted your existing layout.
6. The way it is now, I'd rather skip it altogether. Especially because of point 3 below, but I can't because of point 1 above...
The system is confusing
1. It's unclear if there is any benefit to where you rout your railroad. The residential zones (RZs) right next to your train station itself get included in the train station radius, and that seems to determine the number of people that feed into your station?
2. But what's the point of having lots of people waiting for a train if the only way to make trains come faster is to pay sim cash?
3. If there is no benefit to where you rout your railroad tracks, why not just do a tiny loop around the station? Thats probably not in the spirit of what was intended.
4. Maybe it'd make more sense for your system to be operable if you connect two different stations? If I'm a citizen, what's the benefit of a single train station.. only 1 stop. I can go in a ride and end up where I started. If the tracks run by my RZ but the station is far away, I'll still yell at mayor about wanting mass transit.
5. As is, with 3 train stations I've added so far, I'd say like 1 to 2% of my RZs can access it. And I don't know what the benefit to me (the mayor) is other than running straight into a paywall per point 1 above

Discussion and insights welcome

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MeneerHepatica
2 years ago
And probable we are stucked with it till the end of the season...
QuincyMom2
2 years ago
Please do not FORCE the trains on your players! Make them optional to unlock like with the Regions. We already have 75 CoM tasks (if you're in Mega) plus Design Challenges, War and seven Milestone tasks every week. Why force yet another feature and currency to a game that is already too complicated? This is a GAME. It's supposed to be fun, not a job.
EA, it is your job to create a game for entertainment purposes and we, your customers, reward/pay you through in-game purchases, watching ads, giant billboards in the middle of our cities, etc. I am not going to continue you to pay you for the privilege of doing even more work every week. Hacking and cheating are at an all-time high with hacks being sold openly on YouTube and Facebook. And why do you think that is? Because the game is too complicated and there are so many restrictions on your players. For example, you chose to limit war items to be sold one at a time and then your algorithm vomits up 10 ammo boxes and a bunch of boots for repairs. Daniel doesn't even want to buy this junk and sometimes takes 3-4 days to do it. So the hackers came up with a way for unlimited storage so it doesn't matter how much stuff they have.
Once again for those in the back: DON'T FORCE THE TRAINS ON YOUR PLAYERS. And revert Mayor's Pass to the same rewards as before or lower the price. Remember, this is a game and supposed to be fun, not a job.
Sincerely,
Idiocracity
President, Aloha Trading Company
kkonze13
2 years ago
I love SC buildit, and am so grateful I wasn’t forced to add trains. I’ve yet to hear a positive review besides how cool some things look. If this becomes mandatory I will be seriously pissed. And combined with the money grab for the Tokyo season the game is teetering on the end of being cancelled. I would be so sad to see it fall apart. I spend hours every day on this game and love the design challenges, CoM, prize tracks with fun buildings, and just the fun of rearranging my cities. I spend real money on every season (before Tokyo) and that will end for sure.
the trains better be optional (like wars, Vu tower, and opening new regions) or the game will die.
katieqs11
2 years ago
@QuincyMom2 When the regions were introduced they put items in war deliveries and repairs from regions that we had not unlocked. SO we were forced to unlock regions. There were many reasons players like me who enjoy war did not want to unlock regions (we had less storage back then was a big reason and secondly we didn’t want to spend the extra time - but with items in deliveries we needed the region factories 😡) We were all very angry but started complying. I had unlocked 3 regions when EA backflipped and stopped demanding items in deliveries that we could not make or even see to buy on global/feeder/team mate.
Here is the catch: by the time EA backflipped if you had already unlocked regions it was too late you cannot undo a region as you know.
I have not got the update yet but apparently everyone gets it at end of this CoM season (in 2 weeks) based on my experience with regions where I made irreversible progress unlocking them and now stuck maintaining them - I will not touch rail at all. I will stop playing an wait until EA backflips like they did with regions and I strongly recommend other players who do not want this extra burden do the same.
I will NOT be forced to do rail items in war deliveries and repairs. It is clear this means I will be forced to stop playing - that is preferable.
In the past this game has made me extremely angry with some stupid updates and I just have decided that I do not have the time or energy to get angry or to rage at the machine all over again. I just withdraw and wait and see what happens. Good luck to those who do have the energy and thank you for efforts you make on everyone’s behalf. I hope you succeed.
katieqs11
2 years ago
This has been a trial and those players randomly roped in are very unfortunate. At the end of this season it will be forced on all players so it is a permanent change.
some are hoping this scathing feedback will lead to improvements in what they force on us in the update. We just have to wait and see. Sorry to those of you in the trial and thanks for sounding the alarm so articulately
schiphol-plaza
New Vanguard
2 years ago
The problem with cancelling is that my city is already ruined and i had to use a lot of simcash to get 5 stations. The idea is nice for trains, unfortunatelly the betatest is not. When they make the items to get from The factory its ok by me. Only when you have the stations it gets boring, wait 2.5 hours, run a train and wait again. Perhaps inprove the possibilities might be a solution and create the caps and bolts in
One of the factories or build an Extra factory
c823346b9e82df9
2 years ago
This train thing sucks. 300 train coins for a lantern, 200 for a conductor hat, 80 for a bolt. In the past three days I’ve been asked for over 75 train items in war, construction, rebuilds, etc. sending a train a couple of times a day I’ve accumulated about 1,600 train coins. This is impossible math to compete.
I just spent an extra 15 unnecessary minutes under the bubble in war because of this Train bull shiat!!!
FrontRunner75
2 years ago
Facts
FrontRunner75
2 years ago
These trains are horrible, please remove them ASAP!
schiphol-plaza
New Vanguard
2 years ago
Finally response by an ea community member, unfortunately not about this bug, but that a messages is locked due to content.
perhaps next time, somefeedback about the problem, not only forum rules and so!

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