Club Wars: Arenas - Feedback

It's been the farmers that make us stay bubbled as we know we CAN'T make up the losses.   To be able to kick during war would help,  we should have some control over it, other than taking people's word they will help.

Feel like when you beat a team by 15k, it's over as it is,  sure earn cards if they come at all at the end, and need 30 to 60.  How many wars do you need to do to get anything worth while?   Keep attacking?  How?  Build stuff for 4 hours for one piece of 6 to attack again?   

Sometimes bubbling is to save time we all don't have to make what the game wants,   it's  not me that is the problem.  I liked the one guys idea of a surrender button.   Crush win, move on.   

If it didn't take so long to get things, while waitng to be attacked, it be easier to keepmcrushing an already crushed team.   Maybe teams have terrible strategy, and need to work on that to keep games closer and more interesting

A crushed team continues fighting to get cards.   

Notice most top 3000 teams are all in winterlands.  What is keeping them from  moving up?   

Also, tell me how many points teams want to be beat by?  10k 20k 30k?   You seem to know it will, you must have an answer?.

Personally I think ea likes the bubble method.   They make everything slow, or you have to pay.  Why have bubbles at all?   Why not just full out war?

Whoever hits the most by the end wins?

Seems to be where you are going with it.  10 beats 19 is an issue too imo.

Why have 25?   Make them 15 max, move players around more?   More competitive that way right?  

So yea.  Teams need to buck up and take their own blame for their issues.   

Want to be a top team and compete by the rules... sometimes ya got to something opposing teams don't like.

I don't like it either, but accept it as part of the game.  

EA can fix a lot of things if they choose

Let me step back for a moment and share a couple of things, unlike many ours is a mayor’s club that enjoys participating in the war games and we certainly are not a war club...we elect to participate in one war per week and it is strictly on a voluntary basis. We differ from many clubs because everything is voluntary, no daily bedtime checks, no threats of you must score so many points, nothing is “mandatory” or “compulsory”, we do not have feeder cities or feeder clubs and do not allow “rental” players to come in and play. We simply treat each other with respect and as adults and maintain a safe and encouraging environment. How do we do it, by having great people that actually care about each other.

That being said we have some fierce competitors that very much look forward to Thursday nights when one of the VP’s initiates war...we enter every battle with every intention to be respectful to our opponent and offer them a strong and competitive match and we certainly come to win. We coordinate our efforts and recognize there are only so many targets in a war game and plan accordingly.

With that backdrop, you never take your foot off the gas in competitive situations...The problem is too many folks are just focused on winning and not competing and will resort to a bubble and hide...my attitude is please hit me hard and often and rest well assured I will repay your kindness, I make a point to wish my opponents President (my counterpart) a pleasant good morning in hopes they’ll wish me a pleasant day.

The problem is there are competitors and there are participants...competitors come to play and lay it on the line and winning or losing is only a by product...participants come only to win at any cost simply to move up in the rankings...if you’re afraid to compete stay home. Turtle teams are quickly ruining this game...

I will readily concede you do have a good point, it is the team’s responsibility that you are not given the opportunity to bubble with the lead...but the problem is there are clubs with 25 members that choose to bubble as well. As far as number of members in a club is concerned 25 was the max setup by EA and it could have been anything...personally I have absolutely no intention of telling folks I’m kicking them out because the max has changed because folks can’t recruit or burned too many bridges. In fact, I would like to see EA limit the participation of a mayor to only one club per week which might help address your farming issue.

I challenge you to be creative and find another way to win. If you do you might find recruiting and retaining members much simpler. Just food for thought...

Trust me.  The way we win isn't easy.  Takes  a lot of thought.  And mistskes by thr opposing team.  Now that I've weeded out farms, we will be more competitive.  Like you, those that want to will, those that don't, will hit and stay bubbled.

Hope we never see you in battle...

Hi @PinnacleValley

i totally agree with everything you say. I had a discussion recently on FB with a Greek club, which is proud of their so called strategy: stay shielded all the war. They don't care, how many points every member will achieve, they don't care about chests and cards upgrades. They want to shoot onece and stay bubbled for 34 hours as soon as they have 100 more points, then their opponent.  

Well ok, BUT: that's not going to work in the future. Because while they are sitting under the bubble, normal teams score 200-300k (or more) per war, achieve chests, upgrade their cards.

So what is this (in that case Greek) Club going to do with their Level 1 cards in 3-4 months? We know, the start of the war is the most important thing. So if they start with level 1 and match let's say against my team  with levels 6-10, they won't have any chance. 

But for now, let them celebrate their "strategy". Finally, we'll be the ones who will laugh at the end 😊

take care my friend and I'm glad your club is doing so well. 

Gm

ah, you have answered a question I had without knowing it, lol... but what team keeps going when down by 20k?  i guess if you really get to 400k 20k is nothing... that is nuts.   we have no shot, and we will get beat down one day... 

cards are so far and few between,  one guy was in 7 wars, got 0 war cards, so is still stuck with 2 small attacks... hard to build up or do 12k a war like that. 

i get 5 at a time, but what is that to the 10 to 30 needed all spread out.

You have good points... But to me the purple coins are worth more than the prizes at the end with the luck i been having with cards..

I agree with you last 2 really... just when cards aren't something you get a lot of... where is this so called reward?

Hey GM, great to see you and as always your wisdom is spot on. Even before that happens they have to get ahead and that’s not always an easy thing to do. What concerns me most is the philosophy of we’re getting beat so bad no need to play which is another exploit of the bubble...my concern is folks are already frustrated with this “strategy” and I’ve had several Presidents contact me asking if I had any suggestions how to redirect that frustration. My hope is the future comes quicker than expected and this is put to bed once and for all. 

Take care M.