Please make changes to wars on how long you can be under a shield. We lost two wars because the teams stayed under shield the few hours. It ruins the competition when a team can just hide under a shield instead of fighting. Ideas on how to make changes...all shields are lifted during last hour of war...Shields go away after a time period....only 5 teams can be under shield at one time...teams are penalized for staying under shield too long like minus 50 points every hour under shield...bonus points for not going under shield...bonus points for undoing a shield within a specific time. There needs to be a way for a team to still get points if the other team has everyone under a shield...maybe huge bonus points for the team that puts all players on the other team under shield? PLEASE change something. It is disappointing to have a whole team with ammo and ready to attack and the other team just hides under their shields.

EA need to really address this, it’s happened in the last 3 wars we have played. Players staying under shield is making the game boring and I know a lot of people who will stop paying money to play. We just played a team that stayed under shield for over 35 hrs then in the last 10 mins they went under umbrellas and took the lead and we couldn’t even attack... while it’s a good strategy... it’s for whimps and is going to kill wars off. EA need to really address this ASAP. Either lost points under shield, automatic rebuild with no war items and no shield allowed in the last 20mins. Make it interesting or I wouldn’t spend another dime and a lot more have the same feelings.

Roccodonovan8The same happens to us FREQUENTLY due to our overall agressive style and powerful attack levels. (Levels like: LvL 6+ Mags [myself using lvl 8], LvL 5+ MM [myself using lvl 6].)It is a MAJOR programing oversight that EA CONTINUES to just blow off. When its members/players that spend LOTS of money continue to tell them to fix this oversight...and are frequently IGNORED...it shows that the company, EA, ONLY cares about their profits and NOT about their players who keep the profits coming in!As you can see, they employeed their shields till the very last few minutes of the war when we were all out of our shields ready to play for roughly 24 hours. Then while most of us had left the game due to them not ever showing ANY sign that they would ever come out from their shields....then they utalize the progaming oversight to THEIR advantage to prevent a severely potent a sswhooping from our team.EA needs to do one or more of the following to remediate this issue:Place a time limit on base shields once domed. (ie.: Once domed, your base’s shield will only last 5-10 hours then you forfit any unrepaired war damages and your base becomes 12/12 again, ready to be attacked or attack.)Place a point penalty on the shielded bases that remain under their shield for over 5 hours. (ie.: Every hour past 5 hours, the base earns a 50 or 100 point penalty off their Club’s total score. At the end of the war, penalty points should also be shown on the final score screen for each team.)Reporting system that allows a club to report another club for violating “Fair Play Practices” which once verified, would result in punishement from EA in the form of a temporary to perm. war ban depending on the frequency and overall numbers of reports verified by EA staff and/or loss of points off their War Ranking.Offer a BONUS of points to the team/Club that remains ready to attack/be attacked (un-shielded) the longest. (ie.: A bonus of 5,000-25,000 points to their total score depending on their Club’s War rank.)Offer a BONUS to the players that remain un-shielded the most (by removing their shield within say 5 hours each time they are shielded/domed) in the range of 1,000-5,000+ depending on their Club’s War Rank and their overall positioning in the War battle (maybe by providing the best player points for the metal they receive for being ready to attack the most?)Within the last 12-6 hours of war, a shield will only last for 5 hours.Within the last 6-3 hours of war, a shield will only last for 3 hours.Within the last 3 to war end, a shield will only last for 1 hour.These types of implementations/improvements will level the battelfield and allow the War games to be played properly! Where a team cannot take advantage of programing oversight to win a war unfairly!

[Removed unkind comment - CM] That’s what you were TRYING to achieve there...trying to justify what you were doing and ARE doing is not “wrong”. Well, let me assure you it is. Not only is it wrong, but completely cowardice! In a real war, if the cowards hide behind heavily reinforced barriers, the offensive attackers simply deploy larger munitions that can decimate the structure. In a game like this where the developers in EA have their heads up their *...and consistently let this programing oversight go...it cannot be leveled with...IE: there is no way to “level the playing field”... So, to again answer your “why we play like cowards is not ‘technically cowardice’”...let me assure you it IS and your club would have your rear ends handed to you frequently if you didn’t take advantage of such a blatant programing oversight.

HopeUGotKevkar: Not good to insult people who thinks different than you do.And not good to keep complaining for things you manage in a wrong way.You know what? I'm playing wars with my club since EA introduced its in the game, and opposite's domes had been a problem just few times, rarely.You know why? Because my club fights and rarely let opposite's club gain an advantage that let them safe and leading under the dome (sure, vs cheating clubs things are different, but they use to not stay under the dome).Aren't you able managing wars in this way? It's not a program error. It's not on EA. It's on you! Find a different way and you'll rarely find this problem again.Quit living on mars: wars started about an year ago, EA updated the game more times since then, but the war system remained this one, and nothing let think they are gonna change it, so if you can't live with it then quit playing this game and find out another one.Keep one thing in mind: dome strategy is not cheating. It's a legit strategy. Is it a funny strategy? no, that's for sure, I won't deny it. But it's legit. So find a way to force your opposite not using this strategy rather than complain.My club is not one using the dome strategy as a main one, but I'm a little tired seeing people like you calling cowards clubs that use it. Strategy games are funny 'cause strategies can be different, and the dome strategy is a legit one, and there's a lot of reasons one could choose using it. The main target is winning wars, and you gotta be smart enough to get this target, even using the dome if needed.I'll be glad if EA will change the war system about the dome, but till that day find a way to get over this strategy. It exist, believe me.

Please change the rules in a war for shields

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meesfeet
7 years ago
Thanks PinnacleValley, understand and agreeing.

Just another little focus on another possible point of view (not shared by me, but when I analize something I use to search for every possible point of view, ad a devil's attorney): SimCity isn't born as a war game. I'm 45 years old, I've played almost every version of SC, since the 2D first release, and SCB is the only one with wars, even if SCB top weren't born as a war game.
So, many players doesn't play it as a war game, using wars only to complete COM missions. IMO, leaving war missions from COM would almost resolve the turtle clubs problem.
Best regards
PinnacleValley
7 years ago
Hi meesfeet,
Thanks, just to clarify I still don’t agree with the “strategy” to hide to win...
Roughly 20 years ago my 6 year old son started playing SimCity with his 8 year old buddy and trying to be a good Dad I would sit down with him after supper and he would “teach me the game” and I found that he was learning about economics, resource planning, decision making, budgeting, etc. and was having fun (of course we didn’t let him sit behind the computer all day) and I guess that was part of the appeal. He probably played until he was about 9 when he found other games were more fun... What I was most impressed with in the Maxis game it was developed to be very simple or very complex contingent to how you approached it.
I started playing SCBI when It was released it and found it to be a some what watered down version (but completely understandable) and was here when COM was introduced, the start of the mayor’s clubs and the war games which caused an uproar and quite honestly a drastic increase in cheating and shortcuts. I agree with you and even stated in the forum it was highly unfair to include war game assignments in COM. I do appreciate your optimism that this simple change would address the turtle strategy and for some it will (Hi Bethann 🙂 ) but for too many more It doesn’t matter.
Take care.
meesfeet
7 years ago
Hi PinnacleValley

I already knew you don't agree with that strategy, as I watch this forum at least once daily, even if I'm not writing a lot.

What I'd like to clarify is that I'm not for that strategy too. At least not when abused, staying domed for hours and hours. With my club, sometimes we decided to stay bubbled 2-3 hours near the end and then get out together for a mass-attack, but I think that's not enough to call us a turtle club.

That said, I just don't share insulting people for using a legit strategy I don't like. IMO cheaters are a problem way more worst than turtles.

Take care!
EA_Darko
Community Manager
7 years ago
Hey all, this back and forth bickering ends now, if you cannot post without insulting another user or continue to drag the thread off topic simply to have a go at one another then I will be locking this thread and action will be taken.
Ducted_propelle
7 years ago
Our club almost disappeared because members are fed up when the opponent team turtles under shield as soon as they are in the lead. Unfair and boring that is. I suggest an amusing rule which should make the wars more exciting:
If all the members of the team is under shield when the war finishes, the team loose regardless the score. At least, one of them has to show its nose before the end.
9628077
7 years ago
We just finished a very good war with back and forth fighting, at the end at least half my players were missing due to shift changes and other problems which I knew about so thats ok but several of us wanted a final battle, as soon as we turned green were put back in dome. Tell me how much fun that was, cleaning up so we could fight but were unable, they were too afraid we would win. I do not expect a win from 20,000 deficit but at least give us a chance, we enjoyed the fighting until they domed us over and over and over.
PinnacleValley
7 years ago
Honestly, it sounds like you had a great war and your opponents were available to attack. That’s really all you can ask for. This is where “real” strategy comes into play where the difficult planning and coordination to get out of the bubble has to occur. I’ve been there before and it can be frustrating but certainly possible, sounds like losing some of your folks made it difficult but your opponent had no way of knowing and quite frankly didn’t care They were simply doing what they signed up for. Regardless of what the scoreboard said at the end you still won! The great news is you didn’t have to watch paint dry or grass grow... Good luck on your next war and hope you win again, no matter the final score.

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