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6 years ago

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Shield Buster in Club Wars coming soon!!!

Not much is known about this new booster, except that it can be used to prevent enemies from hiding. It’s about time something is done about this problem. I guess the drop in interest due to boring w...

PinnacleValley
6 years ago
Hi J6NiceL, good to see you. After years of denying a problem existed (instead they call it a “strategy”) EA finally offers a possible solution that you can purchase another weapon to offset the run and hide crowd...maybe. Like you I would much rather compete with the cheaters, at least they to come to play. I hope it works out well for you my friend.

spajtakus

6 years ago

I've been playing this game since the beginning. There were many updates over the years but with this 1 new attack.. shield buster...game is technically over for me and the club I've been playing with for years

We have a team of 10 people. Some of us spent real money to try and keep up with the hackers but we stopped a while ago now. We used to play in top 100-200 thinking that we may be the only non cheating club. Now we on purpose dropped to about 800 in ranking to avoid cheaters and we started war this morning with club that has 7 towns with attacks maxed out. With new shield buster, we don't even try to fight. 2 hours after war started, opponent already have 400k points. Shield buster makes it impossible to try compete against cheaters. EA, why?! Why supporting cheaters? So other players keep spending money to keep up?! Well, enough is enough. My club decided to look for another game as we became a group of friends. Unfortunately fun and adrenaline from wars is gone. Cheaters overtook your game and you let them do it. I know EA doesn't care about me and few other people leaving the game. They have million other players. Its shame that community is not being heard. I'm upset because my experience of playing this game has changed from fun to annoyed, upset...

I don't see any community managers talking to us, honest players.

Whoever says in the forum that we are wrong and we just need to adapt to new change, is cheating or doesn't know this game as well as we know-longterm players. Yes, in arenas 1-4 where there are many inactive players, this may add some action to boring war. But there are very few players on those arenas who are cheating. Arena 5 you play against teams with hacked attacks at max level and unlimited war items.

War results will be ridiculous now. Hacking clubs will be reaching 3-4-5M points now in a single game...

There is no strategy to stop it...you can quit or start cheating.

Where's the fun in that ????

J6niceL

6 years ago

Cheaters had always been a problem before the introduction of this new disaster. With or without it, cheaters are still going to win. Tell me, what’s your percentage of wins against cheater teams when you have shields to help you?

For you, you have more problems with the cheaters. That’s why you hate the new disaster. But for me, I have been fighting 1 cheater + 9 feeders teams and legit teams that consistently use shields to hide and strike to win. We can lose even with 60k lead due to this strategy (30 mins umbrellas can do wonders, unless I want to use lots of freezes to stop them) Even think about the nonsense that players like me have to deal with? Nope, guess not. Everyone always want the game to work in his/her favor. Me too, that’s why I sort of welcome the change.

I’m sorry to say, your case where you can hold it up against cheaters using shields is rare, and from a commercial point of view, it is more viable to address the issue that is plaguing most of us: enemies hiding in shields. You can’t expect the rest of us to continue to take this shield nonsense for the minority who uses shields to win cheaters.

By the way, top 1500 spots are filled with cheaters. Need to drop further down to avoid them.

spajtakus
6 years ago
@J6niceL No offence but I can clearly see that you don't understand how tactics works in this game.

Before shield buster was introduced, you had a chance to win against clubs with 1-3 cheaters.
You could just continue to block cheater's attacks while other cities were attacking you and making less points.
Now it doesn't matter anymore because even if you will win first phase of the war, all it takes is 1 town with hacked and maxed out attacks and 1 town with shield buster attack.

We are active and competitive team. Working together always let us win 3 out of 4 wars with this tactics.

Now there is no tactics to win.

All you need is hacked town with maxed out attacks and unlimited war items.

2 months ago my club reach position 70 in rank with this tactics. We all play fair and beaten many cheating clubs.

Now, there is no point to even be present at the start of the war.

Now, active and competitive clubs like mine will continue to drop in ranking and we will end up playing in arenas 3 and 4, where less active and more casual clubs play. There are not many cheaters there....however still happens.

They will loose their fun from the game too, not because clubs like mine are cheating but are too active to compete with us.
On the other side, victory over less active club will not give us satisfaction for winning.

It's a lose-lose situation.

I agree that the main problem is cheaters but now they were given a tool (shield buster) to be unstoppable.

If there were no hackers in the game, this attack wouldn't matter as much....but there are...
Duckups
6 years ago
We started a new club to start over and get out of the cheaters way. We got to 125. Only takes 3 with 15 mag to win if they do it right. Not let the lower players hit. But yes. We do it the same as you to win.
I havent had a chance to buy the buster yet. So if one on the weaker team has it, we will lose. It doesnt give you 700 points, it fixes 7. Does it mean it takes away shield if you havent built any buildings back? Or do you need to build 7 before it works? And they heal 7? And it breaks
spajtakus
6 years ago
@Duckups It's an attack so has unlimited number of uses during the war. If you are under the shield, this attack takes you out of the bubble and rebuilds 7 buildings.

What cheaters now can do is give you 20 minutes jackpot, 4x magnetism 1x comic hand and finish you off with mellow bellow. Then they use Shield Buster which gives them 1400 points (JP is still active so it doubles the points) at level 1 for taking your bubble off and rebuilds 7 houses in your town. Another players then attacks you with 2x magnetism and close you again with Mellow Bellow. All while 1 long JP is still active. They can carry on doing it for 36 hours if they want.

Cheaters have unlimited war items and attacks maxed out so there is no chance you can come up with tactic to beat them now.

You better put your mobile in silent mode during the night. If you are getting messages from game everytime your town was attacked or sent under the shield, you can keep getting those all night now.
Duckups
6 years ago
Ah. Thanks. Well. Sounds like 0 fun. We are good but not that good. How do the hackers hack? Guesd they just get stuff. I do find it funny this is the game they choose to hack. Seems like a waste of days in a slow game with no real life reward.
spajtakus
6 years ago
@Duckups They are using software designed for that. It's so easy to use that you don't even have to be "tech savvy" to figured out how to do it.
I have no idea where is the fun in having unlimited resources. Maybe they just couldn't win by playing fair and were so frustrated that took the shortcut.
Some of them also thinks they impress other players with max level attack.
Maybe it's similiar analogy like with men who buys big and fancy cars 🙂
Some of them do it to recompense for small size "disaster" 😉
Duckups
6 years ago
Lololol. Made my day. Thanks
J6niceL
6 years ago
This is not the first time I heard someone saying that I don’t know how tactics or strategy works.
Have only 10 members on the team. All must be present at start of war. When the timer hits zero, all use lvl 3 umbrella, lvl 1 vamp and lvl 3 boost on oneself. Note: it must be in this sequence to protect yourself right from the start and have vamp to prevent enemy from putting lvl 3 vamp. Pair up to attack with jackpot. It’s a must to finish with movie monster. If there’s a guy with high lvl monster, he/she should always be the finisher. Look out for duds. The moment you see a flash, stop attacking. Always destroy their most active and strongest members first.
When your umbrella is going down soon, put on dud to prevent them from throwing in an attack during the time another umbrella is going up. When you score enough, make sure to use dud on every single attack that the enemy use on you.
Calculate the timing and gauge when enemy will attack (with jackpot, everyone will wait till full energy before making their move), put lvl 3 freeze to prevent them from attacking.
Sounds familiar??? If you are not doing it this way, let me know. I think this is the most foolproof to get a lead at the start. I’m sure you know other better ways than me, someone who doesn’t know tactics,
If you didn’t manage to get the lead, shield up first. Wait for the time when enemy’s guard is lowest to have the strongest guys sneaking out to attack with jackpots, under protection of umbrellas and blessing of boosts. Throw in a lvl 1 vamp if you are worried they might use a lvl 3 vamp on you.
Superpraesi
6 years ago
@J6niceL
How much war simoleons does it cost to play this way?
Especially how much does it cost when the opponent team uses a similar strategy?
Much more then you get as reward even when you are always winning.

And now, think about, what could be the reason for the existence of so many clubs with only one strong player and 9 feeder cities.
spajtakus
6 years ago
@J6niceL wrote:
This is not the first time I heard someone saying that I don’t know how tactics or strategy works.
If you hear it often then maybe it's to to stop and consider that maybe it's the truth. 🙂
Think about it!!!
J6niceL
6 years ago
@Superpraesi
For farming, of course. This is why members of every single top team always left the club to go farming before going back to fight a big one. And every single single top team has feeder clubs.
The best way to level up fast is to fight with 9 feeders.
J6niceL
6 years ago
@spajtakus
No, it just means you all like to assume the worst of someone when one disagrees with you.
Give me all the stuff needed to fight tactically, want to bet that I will not lose to you? I had won cheaters before, don’t think you are the only one. Just that I don’t bother to anymore.
Tell me what you will do to win, I can tell you how I will counter it. But I will not do it in actual club war because I can’t be bothered to waste my time, energy and stuff on just winning the war. I have a life outside of this game.
BlazinsZ
6 years ago
In my opinion, if there was not much strategy before and it was simply hiding, now is empty about that, It's what I think, we went from a little strategy to nothing, currently it is simply an auction, to be able to remove the shield, there is no end, the time decides.
Just attack, remove shield, attack, remove shield, attack, remove shield, attack, remove shield. Both teams will simply attack and attack to score points, spend impressive amounts of simoleons, resources, in a single war, for the same prize at the end.
Something similar to the contest of mayors, doing tasks and tasks and the prize at the end is the same, and even a large group of players just don't get anything because in the end there is no prize for them, but they did spend a lot for 100 000 COM points.
Do you want to know who is happy with this? EA , I'm sorry, but you have been fooled, now it is to spend immense amounts of simoleons on deliveries, without receiving parts for repairs, so that the end you still lose because the enemy put a few million more than you. Ha! the great suggestion to end the shield strategy was a great opportunity for EA to make players loses more resources to its players for nothing.
@J6niceL wrote:
@spajtakus
Tell me what you will do to win, I can tell you how I will counter it. But I will not do it in actual club war because I can’t be bothered to waste my time, energy and stuff on just winning the war. I have a life outside of this game.

I don't know if I'm misunderstanding this, but this part personally bothers me, they have asked that they eliminate the shields, and they have done it, but there was no intention to play. So our game has been ruined, for those who didn't even think about playing it even when their wish came true.
This bothers me because I do play wars, and I am still doing it, despite the change. It's disappointing
J6niceL
6 years ago
I will still play war, but I will not use excessive resources to fight to win, especially with cheaters. It’s pointless, in my opinion.
They just need to hack the game to get everything, but we legit players need to spend so much time and effort to get the resources that hackers can get in a second. Is there a point to it? Might as well let the cheaters fight the cheaters.
The feeling of triumph of winning a cheater team is only gratifying for that first hour after seeing that “VICTORY” announcement. After that, it’s off to next war. The ego boast from seeing your team in the chart is nice, but also means nothing. Like how I mentioned my team used to be in top 100, but who cares? It’s yesterday news. Same thing as with another guy saying that his club is in top 800, all I know is his team is strong, well-managed and tries very hard to win. But it will not make me go all starry eyes over his team and wish I’m in his team.
Yes, I don’t want the shields to be impenetrable for infinite of time. But I had mentioned in another thread about my idea of dealing with the shield problem. It is very different from what EA had implemented. Since EA make it this way, I can’t complain that much since they can say it’s what I want. I just play it in another way then.
You are right about the lack of strategy part. I had said it before in another thread. But since most people like to term this as strategy or tactic, I gladly oblige.
Invisiblez9
6 years ago
Am a casual war player, as I'm all about CoM. I used to do wars just to get some chests, but now it helps me fulfil the CoM assignments.

Haven't faced a Shield Buster team yet, but from what I've read it doesn't sound like much fun. Can't babysit the game all the time, so I guess opponents will have a nice time scoring points off me and leveling up their disasters quicker.
Funny how EA didn't realise if that players can get more points, which equates to more chests and faster disaster upgrades, the less incentive they'll have to spend cash buying disaster cards.
ASAP1717
6 years ago
We are a team of working adults and you dbags honestly expect us to keep an eye on the war for 24-36 hours? In one week, EA ruined COM by stacking the deck with war tasks and then adding this which does nothing to help (and in fact helps) those who cheat and spend money on the game. Until changes are made I'm done, put a couple years in and this is the breaking point.
athewhofan2
6 years ago
@J6niceL we won 7 wars out of 9 were, not a strong team only me that has the war rank 44 and we war every Monday and always get the same guests every Monday. But this week I dread meeting up with a team that has them shield busters, so I just hope the umbrella works as I have seen that it has not stopped the shield buster so far.
J6niceL
6 years ago
@athewhofan2
Umbrella will not stop shield buster (EA, this is really stupid), but it can prevent enemies from inflicting more damage on jackpot.
I think I had fought your team very recently. There’s a guy with lvl 14 magnetism in your team?