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Anonymous
8 years ago
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For those who cry pay to win

I would just love to hear one of you. Just one of you.. Make a valid point on how it is pay to win.... You keep crying "pay to win." So how is it pay to win? When the cards don't really give you an...
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    chinnyreckon
    8 years ago

    I agree @kaspen2012 however if you read my above post on why an aproar around BF2 arose rather than any other game to date, it was because P2W had such (A) extreme effects on game play and ( B ) paying was not really a choice as everyone was being coerced into paying, and (C) the method of paying was by unregulated gambling. If it didnt have A, B, and C there would have not been an aproar.

    Players were effectively being forced into gambling just to make the resuting gameplay between them unpleasurable to the extreme.

    By the way i am one of those who doesnt have much time to comit and cant do the grind either. However I completely see why more dedicated players oppose P2W. You will see from my posts all over the forum that I personally have always promoted minimising the adverse effects of buying items that effect gameplay (comprimise). In addition if paid items were only cosmetic then the required grind to get items needed to level up etc could be reduced to something people like me could manage as EA would no longer need to push us into paying for them by making them such a heavy grind that even the dedicated players hated it. So I am very up for that. Rather than paying would not you prefer a little grind and the achievement of the reward. Paying is no fun in comparison. You need to see the big picture. The pay system designed for this game is not there to help people like you and me, that can be done in other ways, it is there ONLY to make money. If every one is forced to pay to unlock stuff, then as regards playing the game it is no different than if all items were already unlocked from the start except as a side effect your bank account would be empty.

    As well as people that dont have time to grind so prefer to pay, there are those who dont have much money. They would have been excluded as the microtransaction system in this game was designed to take every cent from every player. That was the issue, not that there were microtransactions at all. The game could be designed to satisfy all player types and not take a cent in microtransactions, but that would upset EA. That is why I think we will need to comprimise. It is cos they will never completely let it go, they have ongoing costs too.

    My post in this thread about P2W have purely been in order to explain to those like you who were unaware about the serious effect that such things can have on game play so that you understood clearly and did not believe as you did at the start of the thread that there were no effects

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