all i was trying to do is let people know that lucas film, george lucas, dave foloni, and other don't like the sequal trilogy. along with many fans. theres proof that the movies tanked and they suck. there are many many news articles stating that they are going to do something. so stop being a butthead and let people voice there opinions and fact.
@HoverBoyBen wrote:
all i was trying to do is let people know that lucas film, george lucas, dave foloni, and other don't like the sequal trilogy. along with many fans. theres proof that the movies tanked and they suck. there are many many news articles stating that they are going to do something. so stop being a butthead and let people voice there opinions and fact
I don’t think that opinions make things bad. I don’t like communism, but that doesn’t necessarily make things about it bad. There is no “proof” of an opinion.
The sequels made a lot of money, some liked them, some hated them, and critic reviews were fairly neutral about them. So one can’t say they “tanked” or that they suck.
I for one WISH it was real or becomes one later down the track. But highly unlikely...but still wish for it....
here is your guys proof and theres ton more
While the films are indefensible garbage, and I would like them to be erased. I doubt that would happen unless someone buys Star Wars off of Disney and realistically I know that very likely won't happen.
The first mistake was Disney owning Star Wars, the 2nd and 3rd mistake was letting J.J and Rian create films for the franchise. J.J is a hack who can't do anything more than vista shots, one-liners and macguffins. Rian is just a self-admitted selfish person who made the film just for him, hence the WW2 fetish in TLJ and he has the most basic understanding of what 'subverting expectations' is. The triology itself was a mishandled hot mess, that neither the actors or diectors will defend, with so much production hell going on behind the scenes it boggles my mind when people try to defend these movies.
Back to Disney, I would love for Star Wars to be out of there hands, so that SW isn't owned by a racist, homophobic company. Every display of race, sexuality and gender has been little more than tokenism, even Rey despite being the MC for 3 films barely has any character and they made her a Mary Sue probably to avoid any allegations of sexism, while they spend a trilogy not developing her, hence why the only thing anyone working on the project could say about her was 'WOMAN!'. Then they included a blink and you'll miss is Lesbian kiss, because 2 women kissing is more socially acceptable than 2 men kissing, heaven forbid. But THEN they go ahead and CUT that kiss out for many international markets, ones which ARE homophobic, to the point of imprisoning and even murdering gay people. THAT is who Disney is catering too. And do I even need to mention how Disney lightening Finn's skin and shrunk him waaaaaaay down on their posters for China?
Disney has quite a bigoted history and they haven't changed.
@GeneralXIV wrote:
And yes, the lesbian kiss felt a little like a consolation prize - I say that as a lesbian :P It would have been great to see Poe and Finn together on screen, just as it would have been nice to see Elsa with a girlfriend in Frozen II. Disney keep having opportunities to include gay characters in a way which would be so good but they aren't using them and it's frustrating :P
Or they could try to make a film without overt virtue signalling, and people could stop making people just because they’re not obviously straight, when there’s no reason to bring their sexuality into it at all.
Everyone was celebrating at the end of TROS but in the whole group, there was only one kiss, and it was between two women? That’s not writing a good scene. A good scene would have had lots of people kissing (though not all at once - that would be weird). Having only one kiss is them saying “look at us - we’re progressive so we put lesbians in”.
Same goes for Poe and Finn - no reason to think they’re gay, and no reason to make them gay, or straight, or anything. Their sexualities, whatever they are, are irrelevant. Why can’t they just be friends? Sex doesn’t have to come into it. Both have interactions with women that could hint at interest in women too, but that’s still a case of “who cares?”
omg dude thats exactly and i mean exactly what i think....and what ive been trying to say also you took the words right out of my mouth and made them into into something amazing.... love the time and detail you put into your reply.... great job..... i really apprecate that there is some one that shares my opinion.... and i have posted forms on the old site saying so much how the sequal trilogy is just a cheap rip-off of what lacas as works so hard for.
The PT used to get hated on quite a bit, however now I see the vast majority of people talk about them in a flattering light. In fact, every online poll asking users what their favorite SW movie is has RotS in the lead by a wide margin. They’ve aged well.
Unlike the ST, which will forever be immortalized as a dumpster-fire of a trilogy, & rightfully so.
