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Anonymous
8 years ago

Re: Wookie is OP AF


@stahn456 wrote:
He's a hero with a short range attack. His damage output, using ALL of his skills should be more than a wookie warrior, who is half his cost. In fact, it should even take all 3 abilities plus his entire bar to drop the *. A 1v1 vs another hero and I'd give you a point, he isn't a hero and thus shouldn't have the capability to drop one when under concentrated fire in an enclosed space such as the Hoth rebel base caverns.

You're missing the entire point though. The wookie hits waaaaay too hard for how much health it has, it's the EXACT same problem we had with aerials in beta 1 shotting people and such. They are the new flavor of the month, and you totally ignored the fact that people will ignore heroes to become one. You're trying to defend something you yourself said was op, which makes them broken. The ONLY way I've found to kill a wookie is to have an officer overheat them when they aren't ready for it. I dropped 4 of them in 1 match doing that. They panic and die instead of popping their bonus health and retreating. It's their only weakness, and even then it's a pain to do because of how close you have to get to use it, but if you've got a 4 shot blurg, you can drop them if you take it to cool down and don't miss. A single mistake and you're dead and they'll be full health in 5 seconds. Which is absolutely ridiculous given they're as powerful as heroes.

Nerf the wookie AND buff the empires. They are both pathetic to use, one is basically a free i-win button, the other isn't even worth considering.

Definitely not the only way to kill a wookie... maybe the best way to solo a wookie 1v1 as a officer. I might agree with that.

The vanguard deals 400 damage per shot, that's more than the wookie's base hp. So vanguard can 1 shot them unless they have their hp boost on and 2 shot them if they do. Heavy sentry will chew through one quickly and sentry grants explosive resistance against wookie's explosive weapon. The CR-2, TL-50, and BLRRRG all chew through hit points at a rate where if you flank the wookie you can eliminate him quickly.

Is the wookie a bit too strong, yes. But is OP AF? No. There are just a couple heroes that need a bit of a buff, and again, EP has an extremely high skill cap before he's good and he isn't a duelist. Wookie is no match for an AAT which is way less BP and gains way more BP. Wookie isn't even a match for a speeder which can easily run it over and costs a lousy 200 BP.

So stop the drama. At least there is one enforcer worth playing.  Nerf him to the point where he can't threaten a hero and there won't be any worth playing.

Enforcers are supposed to be threats to heroes. Again, saying they are better than heroes is just gross misinformation because they are not.

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  • stahn456's avatar
    stahn456
    8 years ago
    No, your dismissal of an op character is the misinforming position. You blatantly admit they are too powerful, but you only do so in a sad attempt to not get them nerfed like they need to be. Using vanguard at close range, i have NEVER 1 shot a wookie. Ever, and that is the first thing ive tried. So thats a lie, given the over 10 times ive done it, hitting 2-4 times and only sometimes dropping them IF they can health buff.

    Every class you say requires the wookie to sit there almost stationary and LET you hit him like an idiot to kill it. An officer has to land every shot from their blurgg until it goes on cooldown (my favorite class, I know this as I do it often) to kill it. Miss once, or have him land a shot in all that time and you're toast. Assault? Lol, that thing has * for accuracy, and unless he's already hurt, he'll kill you before you finish in 1 or 2 shots. Again, it takes an entire reload and that's if he does NOT have or use his health buff.

    The only things you've said right are that some heroes are junk and every enforcer but the wookie is worthless.

    The only drama here is what you bring with you. Nobody asked your opinion after all, and I'm growing tired of you giving it when I didn't ask for it.
  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago

    When you makes claims on open forum that are exaggerated you invite other people's opinions.

    The overload bug on the wookie was fixed. All they need to do is increase the spread on his bolt caster and make it a little less accurate and he'll be perfect.

    But saying he's OP AF isn't true IMO, he's very slightly out of line with what my ideal BP economy model would look like. Again, he's a lot closer to being in balance than speeders, heavy vehicles, space ships, Rey, and Boosk are. 

    The other enforcers hopefully will be buffed up to a similar power level.

    Claiming the wookie is OP is completely relative. Comparing any enforcer to any normal trooper should leave the impression that the enforcer is OP, that's why you spend battlepoints to get him. You should stop trying to solo a unit that costs 50% as much as a hero as a normal trooper. If it was easy to solo such an expensive unit, why would anyone purchase it???

    The biggest difference between heroes and enforcers is crowd control. And that's why heroes should generally win a duel between them and any other unit. If you pull in a wookie and freeze him as Kylo, the wookie is dead before it gets to attack. If you force choke a wookie into melee spam the wookie is dead before he gets to attack. The heroes that don't have "I win" crowd control effects either have crazy damage output and mobility (Boba Fett, Maul) or are terribly under-powered and shouldn't be played if the game is being taken seriously (Iden Versio).

    Also if you can't 2 shot a wookie with vanguard even with their shield up, it's because you have potato aim. You can 2 shot a flame trooper which has an extra 100 hp with vanguard. I've 2 shot both of these units and been 2 shot by assaults while playing both. And I rarely play assault or flame trooper. 

  • stahn456's avatar
    stahn456
    8 years ago
    Now who's giving misinformation? Lol. You are dismissed from this post and all future posts I make. This is a post to give MY OPINION on a class, if people agree, they will give me xp, if not, they won't. Since there have been numerous posts made complaining about the wookie, literally more than any other character in the game, I'd say people disagree with you. But hey, don't let a little thing like all the other posters get in the way of your narrative to protect the character you enjoy spamming yourself into the most, right?

    Now, you are dismissed. Nobody cares if he's out of line with YOUR vision, it's not balanced around YOUR vision, if it were then only thing things YOU like would be worth a damn. Luckily there are people who take EVERYTHING into account when describing and viewing a character. How many kills can it stack up vs others, strengths, weaknesses, damage, cc ability, etc. If you bothered to read the entire thread, I've mentioned Blast several times, which makes a normal troopers ability to take down a wookie extremely important since only 1 side HAS them. Oh, did you forget how important that was to an ENTIRE GAME TYPE? I think you overlooked it, again, and again, and again, etc.

    You're thinking is so one dimensional it hurts to read your comments. Just stop. Nobody asked, nobody wants to know your opinion, have I once asked what you thought? Did I invite you to comment? No, I'd of avoided the forums at all costs if there was any other way to make the issue known and get a response directly, but there isn't. This is the 3rd time I've told you to leave. Let's see how well you can read, because any more posts from you in response to me on any of my posts will be considered harassment. Leave.
  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Actually, I just checked this entire board and this is the very first thread on this forum that complains about the wookie.

    There are a lot more complaints about vanguard shotgun, sentry, spaceships, heavy vehicles, and speeders.

    Also, you have absolutely no authority what so ever here. You can't dictate who posts in your threads. 

    Nor do I of course, I'm just here to contribute to discussions and call spades spades.

  • stahn456's avatar
    stahn456
    8 years ago
    You aren't contributing at all, you're just intentionally trying to * me off, which is harassment, especially since I've told you to not speak to me several times now. I'd have blocked you from even being able to see my posts if it were an option, but it isn't. You do nothing but take the opposite opinion of anyone who makes a post just to be an *.

    Had you bothered, there are more boards than this one to read in. Then again, trolls don't usually leave the basements they occupy which explains why you don't know that. I'd happily post there, away from you and your over rated opinion of yourself, but this is the only forum my phone allows me to post in.

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