This game should be pulled

@MasterPadwan77  Yes, server side adjustments will change how the server interacts with players. This is where mechanical resolution will come in (ie input resolution & prioritization, etc). 

BF 2 is not a full server side compilation; much of the asset and attribute data are client side. While the server has to resolve the gameplay much of the games imbalance isn’t due to sever resolution; it’s in the game compilation itself. This is why the GG claw rush had to be a distributable patch; not merely a server side update. 

There’s a fine line in this game between where the garbage server handling ends and the bad programming begins. Even if you were to fix the server issues it wouldn’t fix all of these issues because you’d have to adjust game parameters and deploy to the clients. 

The bad server state does contribute to jenky gameplay we’re seeing; just don’t think that’s the main or only reason why. 

Its so fun just proving you wrong.......

1. Here is article about AI being a server side fix or adjustment

https://battlefront.fandom.com/wiki/Capital_Supremacy_Hotfix

 2. Obiwan issue getting locked in all out push because of bad connection to server.....meaning mostly like server side fix. Which is likely also the same for anakin stuck in retribution. See both articles' server side corrections with f search of server.

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Announcements/Community-Transmission-Siege-of-Kamino-Update/td-p/9036376

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Announcements/Community-Transmission-Giants-Above-Kachirho-Update/td-p/9036359

3. Or this server side issue with the stamina bar from a while back....do f search on this page for server to find what im talking about.

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Announcements/Community-Transmission-Chosen-One-Update/td-p/9036347

3A. With these two abilities have server side issues its also more than likely the case that other abilities have simimar issues. Like grievous claw rush seems to miss people now even though the rest of tbe crowd fell down one or two might stay standing....not heavy

4.or the end of round matchmaking which is both client and server side issue joining to empty games still

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Announcements/Community-Transmission-Matchmaking/td-p/9036336

6. Dooku feels like 1/2 the time he swings thru people and never hits. Seems to be getting worse than anytime in the past. Applies to a lot of characters again and likely a server side ability or attack issue with bad connections.

7. Servers are probably also degrading and/or changes to servers might also be causing more problems.

From jan2021 to may 2021 the game had bugs and issues but it qas a stable enough build you could play and deal with the minor problems......now the game is unmanageable.

@MasterPadwan77  Wow ok .. 

1) that patch was exactly as the notes stated: a PATCH. That update was a client release; not just a server side adjustment. All players had to download that update to patch the client. That’s because some of what was covered in that update was client based code. You didn’t help your argument with that one; you proved my point. 

2) Yes, Obi Wan getting stuck in AOP would easily be a server issue, however, that’s not a character “balancing” problem. 

again, if you go back and read what I wrote; YES, server issues DO cause gameplay issues and anomalies, however, server issues aren’t the cause of IMBALANCES. Character balance issues are in the game compilation itself; not in server resolution. 

I think we need to clarify what falls under “balancing” .. having Obi stuck in AOP or Annikan stuck in HM are not balance issues .. having a character not land a strike isn’t a balancing issue … balance issues would be Hans dodge recharge rate or AOE of Detonate Charge or DPS, or blaster dodge immunity, Those are examples of balance issues; they’re game attributes that are part of the client build and aren’t referenced off the server. 

For Dookus swings; I can’t say I’ve noticed that at all, Dooku has a high rate of strike and the hit detection in the game usually favors recognition against other saber heroes. It’s possible that your strikes with Dooku are getting caught in the stack which has server impacts but from what I see in regular gameplay his strikes register their target. 

again, many issues with game mechanics ARE worse due to the server state but the server isn’t causing the imbalance is causing mechanical problems. Fixing the servers wouldn’t result in a balanced and “good gameplay” state; it would resolve the mechanical interaction bugs but you would still have to contend with all of the imbalances that are written into the game. 

@VetteC5RX You under estimate how much of the game is affected by server side updates and adjustments.  With how unstable the game has always been and tettering on collapse from imbalance and bug problems......any additional changes to server side easily throw this game out of balance and playability.

You forget that they completely removed palpatine from the game with a server side update.

@VetteC5RX Here we go more people confirming what I'm saying about server side issues with the game!  Making characters feel weak or missing targets or not working, both on PSN & PC. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/nzvtrs/unplayable_lag_on_pc_2021/

You're opinion was worthless, just FYI!

@MasterPadwan77  Reddit isn’t a citable source of facts. 

again, server issues aren’t balance. Server issues affect gameplay quality, yes; that’s not how “balance” in gameplay is derived. 

Gameplay balance has to do with programmed attributes of the game … how those attributes interact is server related. They are two distinctly different things; albeit they are related. 

The server issues aren’t what made Han, Luke, or Chewbacca imbalanced; the server issues is what makes their gameplay feel junky and haphazard; but that’s not imbalance. 

an example of imbalance is Hann & Chewie both having two unblockable high damage plus crowd control abilities; something no other characters feature. That makes them imbalanced. The fact that hit detection is garbage is a server issue; but the fact that the game has imbalance is due to game programming which is separate from the server issues. 

I’ve been dealing with games for over 30 years; I’ve seen it all. I’m more than familiar with differences between client and server problems and I’m telling you that even fixing the server issues would not result in good, balanced gameplay. 

Everyone like to “blame the servers” for everything and while the servers ARE guilty of causing many issues; it’s more than that; it’s bad game development. 

Here is a list of just some of the poor gameplay attributes that are totally client side, that, even if you fixed the servers these problems would persist:

1) dodge immunity (especially when paired with varied dodge recharge rates)

2) character “cast times” for abilities 

3) “last chance” escape

4) stamina logic 

5) Inconsistent trait logic (ex: high damage output paired with strong crowd control for some characters or multiple unblockable abilities)

These are just some of the client side attributes that contribute directly to game imbalance that are completely separate from the server states. 

game mechanics, like input stacking, are made worse by the server as are the hit detection problems. But when we talk about bad game balance we have to look at the developed attributes of each class, character, enforcer, etc and compare them among one another to see if proper balance exists. In this case, it doesn’t. 

TROS made the game imbalance worse even before the sever state degraded. A number of us, myself included, game tested BF 2 heavily after TROS update and found a lot of problems that were implemented, client side. The only major one the Devs did fix was the “dodge to block” mechanic, which, was a client distributed patch. The rest of the issues they didn’t touch; including the tiered progression.