WHY DO YOU DO IT?
Why do you ragequit in HvV? Please share your thoughts.
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@J_TrianglerI find it hard to believe that you're being honest with what you're saying if you're applying this to yourself.
If it's entirely for the fun, contrary to what you've claimed before, then why are you even judging people who quit in this game like that? Your ban demand is pretty serious or were you just joking all the time? Either way, just stop it. Transferring your community spirit from your martial arts class into a random game server was not appropriate to begin with.
People in Battlefront don't usually quit just because they're losing a match, but because they're absolutely outmatched and facing a team they simply can't defeat because of several advantages this team has with no way to effectively learn something out of that situation. So it's absolutely ok to do so.
If that stacked team decides to keep using the most op heroes they shouldn't wonder at all if the randos leave because it's still a game, not war where you have no choice.
If you want to return to your martial arts again, your newbies are there to learn something from the pros and not so someone with better skills just instantly goes all out on them so they end up in hospital, or not?
This game is absolutely random and unforgiving in most regards and no sane person would want to force others to endure a session against a pub stomping stacked team.
Are you also going to say something about that or will you just keep nitpicking around your martial arts again?!
@TRlALON wrote:@J_TrianglerI find it hard to believe that you're being honest with what you're saying if you're applying this to yourself.
If it's entirely for the fun, contrary to what you've claimed before, then why are you even judging people who quit in this game like that? Your ban demand is pretty serious or were you just joking all the time? Either way, just stop it. Transferring your community spirit from your martial arts class into a random game server was not appropriate to begin with.
People in Battlefront don't usually quit just because they're losing a match, but because they're absolutely outmatched and facing a team they simply can't defeat because of several advantages this team has with no way to effectively learn something out of that situation. So it's absolutely ok to do so.
If that stacked team decides to keep using the most op heroes they shouldn't wonder at all if the randos leave because it's still a game, not war where you have no choice.
If you want to return to your martial arts again, your newbies are there to learn something from the pros and not so someone with better skills just instantly goes all out on them so they end up in hospital, or not?
This game is absolutely random and unforgiving in most regards and no sane person would want to force others to endure a session against a pub stomping stacked team.
Are you also going to say something about that or will you just keep nitpicking around your martial arts again?!
Wow. Lots of issues here.
1. I never made a "ban demand" but I stand by my assertion that players who quit mid-match, on a regular basis, should be punished for it. A ban is the obvious way to do that, but you could go for softer options too. It definitely shouldn't be without consequences. If it's for the fun, you're taking from the fun of others. If you're trying to get better, it doesn't do that either.
2. "Transferring your community spirit from your martial arts class into a random game server was not appropriate to begin with." Why not? Because you don't have a good argument for it?
3. "People in Battlefront don't usually quit just because they're losing a match, but because they're absolutely outmatched and facing a team they simply can't defeat ..." That's pretty much a contradiction. They don't quit because they're losing, they quit because they think they can't win. 🤔
4. "If you want to return to your martial arts again, your newbies are there to learn something from the pros and not so someone with better skills just instantly goes all out on them so they end up in hospital, or not?" Well, there would be something to learn from that, but the fact that you could seriously injure someone outweighs the potential learning opportunity in martial arts. Nobody goes to hospital if they get battered in a game.
5. "... no sane person would want to force others to endure a session ..." Nobody's being forced to endure anything. You enter a game, knowing that this is a possibility, and I'm not saying that you should be able to quit anyway. I'm just saying that there should be penalties for those who do it regularly, because it damages the experience for everyone else.
"Wow, lot's of issues here."
Mirror, Don Quijote.1. You did, look into your first comment. Also you're right now just saying that a ban is appropriate and you didn't suggest anything else back then. So don't just row back pretending that I should've known that you're in for softer options all of a sudden too now.
2. How often do I need to explain that one to you again? I didn't in my last reply because I did so before and thought that it just isn't necessary to mention this again, to make it clear. In a class you can communicate, practice together often, while on the game server it's random. Coordination and all simply is much more difficult in this environment, especially because of communication barriers and whatnot. You can barely call that a real "group" unless they build up these elements.
3. That's just absolutely oversimplified from you and completely ignoring what I was saying else but ok. There's a difference if you have a balanced match or a completely lopsided match and how you'll experience that. This was the issue I was referring to. No *, in both scenarios your team loses, differences in the things I mentioned still persist however. So no contradiction here just because the outcome "defeat" is the same.
Did you even bother to read that section properly?!
4. Again dude, did you even read and try to see what I'm trying to tell you?! Seriously, it gets really tiresome at this point.
No *, someone can get injured during training. Though it's not like your teacher/master will go all out just because he wants to slay some noobs and deliberately send them to hospital.
In Battlefront language means that pro stacks often just don't care at all how imbalanced the match is and will come up with their Grievous - Palpatine - Iden combo anyways.
The "hospital" for Battlefront just means that the random people will get just get steamrolled with no mercy and will eventually quit.
Was it really that unclear what I was trying to tell you? In that case I'm sorry.
5. Double down on 1.
If there's a penalty like a timed ban like you suggested before, it can be considered to force players into staying on that server.Because beware if you just leave, you might be banned and can't play some hours later again.
No *, there's no Freddy Kruger or Charles Manson with a knife behind your chair that forces you to keep playing or else you die, but... you understand what I was trying to tell you?
Anyways, we can keep beating around martial arts for the rest of the year or we can look at what was really the thing in your first comment and my very first response to you:
You stated there that bans would be appropriate and I found it to be way over the top for I reasons I have explained.
My critic about your comparison was only a minor aspect here. I mean look at it, we were mostly just disputing your comparison which kinda misses the main topic.
I see in your newest comment that you also blame the matchmaking, just like I'm seeing this as main issue. Well, judging from what you've said before it seemed like you were more blaming the players for everything and that's what made me say that bans aren't appropriate. Period.
"I don't ragequit because I'm losing, I ragequit because I'm going to lose"...
So many excuses for what is really just being salty and childish af.
Happy to see there are some mature players around here that completely understand where I'm coming from.
I hate sore losers.
- @ssjsnoop This is pretty hypocritical
How? lol
- @ssjsnoop You call the quitters salty yet you seem to be more salty than the people defending quitting, it’s also pretty childish to insult people because they don’t think the same way as you.
Seriously, this entire thread seems to have been started with that intent.@EA_AticCan you close this one maybe? This is leading nowhere at this point.
@ssjsnoopReading helps to answer your (and that other guy's) questions here, no need to explain the opposite opinions and reasons for decisions to guys like you for the 5th time again. Also no need to restate the basically same phrase again just for... what exactly are you even trying to acheive here?Also ironic how you call others sore losers, manchild etc. while at the same time you are so butthurt from people not playing as you want them to do that you even take the effort to make a thread here whining about that. Well, after pretending that you're just here to actually hear people's opinions which you clearly aren't.
Your logic is astounding...😕
I call ragequitters salty because they are mad they are losing at a videogame and abandon their team before the match is over.
There's nothing for me to be salty about lol I'm pointing out how that petulant behavior ruins HvV matches.
This isn't subjective. Ragequitting is fair to no one except the entitled child/manchild.
- @TRlALON Ye this thread has just turned into a mess, the same things are being repeated over and over again. I find it pretty funny tbh that people actually feel the need to make other people feel bad about leaving in an unranked game with terrible matchmaking.
I find it pretty funny that some people around here, not all, are so immature and entitled that they have to ruin HvV matches instead of finishing the match then quit.
This is NOT subjective. Ragequitting before it's over ruins the match for both teams.
So much semantic bs trying to justify it.
I only quit when my team is useless and the other team has no sportsmanship. Emoting after 4v1ing me and such. Sorry boiz I'll find another lobby with proper play
@ssjsnoop wrote:I find it pretty funny that some people around here, not all, are so immature and entitled that they have to ruin HvV matches instead of finishing the match then quit.
This is NOT subjective. Ragequitting before it's over ruins the match for both teams.
So much semantic bs trying to justify it.
That's just like......your opinion, man.
You are repeating yourself. Once more.
Yet you are the only one so entitled to think that your opinion is the one and only "objective" truth.
There is nothing to "justify" about the other side's opinion because this entire subject was about people's opinions about ragequitting in case you missed it.So nope, your opinion to blame it entirely on players, regardless of the context, is not more valid than others here.
If your feelings or your high and mighty moral views are hurt because people leave a video game match, which bothers you so much that you even open a thread about it, it's your own problem.
To sort things out here: You made a thread specifically asking people why they leave matches just to brag later that you actually hate people in general who leave because they don't play as you want them to do? Like why do you "officially" ask for a discussion while in reality you don't accept any discussion at all? Save that foul behaviour for the church, priest.
Next time be honest and make a rant post right away without pretending that you want to hear anything else that wouldn't fit into your judgement zone.I wanted to hear how ragequitters are still justify ragequitting and you big babies didn't hold back.
The truth hurts and it's wounding a lot of people's egos.
There is no subjective opinion to be had about this statement: Ragequitting ruins matches.
Finish the match then quit as fast as you want. Don't act like a child.
@ssjsnoop wrote:I wanted to hear how ragequitters are still justify ragequitting and you big babies didn't hold back.
The truth hurts and it's wounding a lot of people's egos.
There is no subjective opinion to be had about this statement: Ragequitting ruins matches.
Finish the match then quit as fast as you want. Don't act like a child.
You're reading a lot more in to this than is necessary. You asked a question. You received plenty of reasonable, honest answers. No ego involved.
You got your answers. You disagree with them. That's fine. Move along.
- @ssjsnoop You’re the one who’s acting like a child, it’s obvious that you’ve only made this thread to start an argument.
There is no subjective opinion to be had about this statement: Terrible matchmaking ruins matches.
If this was a ranked game with good matchmaking I would understand, but it isn’t, it’s nothing to do with ego, it’s to do with how much fun your having. I personally don’t find it fun when I have level 1s on my team and we are against level 500+ players :/ @Bagginses2This. I play games to have fun. Not screaming and throwing the controller at the TV when I get deathballed for the 1000th time by a team of sweaty maxes and my team consists of what, players with level 5, 2, and 1 units? 🙄
If only the matchmaking wasn’t this bad... But guess what? It is.edit I’ll leave this here
- @ssjsnoop No one, and I mean literally no one, has acted more like a child in this thread than you have. Even though Hitmonlee martial arts guy got destroyed by @TRIALON he at least competently put a somewhat coherent argument together. You on the other hand have repeatedly tried to pass down judgement on us "babies" with your god tier self-righteousness. This coming from the guy who megaphone caps locked his thread title.
Rage quitting doesn't ruin matches, faulty matchmaking does. Seriously, how many times does @Bagginses have to take the time to correct you on that? Problem number uno is matchmaking, because if the matchmaking was better there'd be no need to jump out and try for a better lobby. So no, it's not technically subjective to say that rage quitting ruins matches, it's just completely wrong in regards to this game and the times that it's acceptable to bail. @Everyone Wow, this thread is real toxic. Insults being thrown everywhere, caps lock, and a whole lot of pride. Yikes. Take a chill pill and be the levelheaded talker. If this offends anyone, I’m sorry, but I had to get that out.
People are hyperbolic af and use matchmaking as an excuse so they NEVER have to take responsibility for what they are doing.
I played the freak out of this game, anywhere from 500-1000hrs and no game was ever so bad I had to ragequit midmatch and ruin the game for everyone else.
Stop defending what is objectively poor sportsmanship and bad behavior.
Matchmaking doesn't always screw you over but Ragequitting always does.
this post is an absolute joke 🙄
Game is casual, this ain’t overwatch or csgo son. In those games there’s actual competitive modes with rankings and all that stuff. This game doesn’t.
Let me repeat for you:
The game is casual.
- “no game was ever so bad I had to ragequit midmatch and ruin the game for everyone else.”The game has bad matchmaking and has a litany of BUGs so we have to deal with it on a daily basis.
So I assume you play in a group. That’s why you never get bad matches.
Because i can
Yeah, that's a waste of time. OP will just repeat the basically same statement over and over again like a spam-bot, ignoring what anyone says.
Idk why he initially created this post in a sense of hiding what he's really on about, maybe he wanted to make "better" humans out of us or just have a reason to brag.
It's time to let this thread die now, it really doesn't deserve to be kept alive anymore. The discussions are leading nowhere at this point.
@FearfulWarpIII have also tried before to explain this to some other guy here who takes this stuff way too serious, with the same success as you.
EA_AticDICE Team
This thread has gone places so before its get worse I'm closing it down.
Can we respect each other on the forum and not go after each other because we have different opinions, thanks!
/Atic
