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Horus_Blackhear's avatar
Horus_Blackhear
5 years ago

Thanks for installing crapware in the guise of anti cheat with out notice

I bought the game via Steam despite my reservations. After installing the game and having issues linking my steam and origin accounts, I find out that the game is bundled with easy anti cheat. This i...
CarbonCarl's avatar
CarbonCarl
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@Horus_Blackheart
I myself understand what ring level 0 access is and I’m quite happy to allow that on my system if it makes for a good anti-cheat.
You only need to look at the complaints on the battlefield forums to see what happens when you don’t allow ring level 0 access. Like I said it’s a no win for EA.

And sure it’s a fair point if you wanted to know prior to installation, but if you were so concerned about something like this I thought you would have looked this up beforehand?

There is a thread that’s been on this forum for a while where I mentioned the game uses Easy Anti-Cheat.

I mean what would you do if they did tell you prior to installation, ask for a refund? Because it would make zero sense to make it optional.




Horus_Blackhear's avatar
Horus_Blackhear
5 years ago
@CarbonCarl Let me get this straight. You are totally fine potentially compromising your system to stop a few cheaters Further you expect buyers to research all the potential anti cheat systems EA Could implement with no contest prior to buying the game? If so that makes no logical sense.
If they had disclosed it prior I would have assessed the risks and impact on my system then decided if the trade off was worth it.(its not). .Having made that determination I would have not bought the game. Further more I rarely look at these boards so while you were aware of the system used I'm betting a majority were not aware of the implementation. I would take valves Vac system over anything that needs ring 0 access to function. Anyone that really wants to cheat will and compromising everyone system to try and stop that is like hiding under a table when a nuke go's off kabuki theater at best.
  • CarbonCarl's avatar
    CarbonCarl
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago
    @Horus_Blackheart Well I have been playing multiplayer games for many years and have never had issues with my system due to anti-cheat software like this; you would be surprised how many games actually use kernel lvl anti-cheats.
    All the battlefield games up until bf1, fortnite, rainbow six siege, gears 5, master chief collection, PUBG, even CSGO and the list goes on and on.

    So after all these years I’m pretty confident my system will not be compromised whilst using these programs and ultimately make my gaming experience far better.

    The only time my concerns would differ on this is if it were an unknown anti-cheat program implemented by unknown devs/publishers etc.

    • Horus_Blackhear's avatar
      Horus_Blackhear
      5 years ago
      @CarbonCarl I'm very well aware of how prevalent kernel level anti cheat software is. Which is why I don't play games like Apex legends et all. Kernel level anything is a sloppy brute force approach with a limited window of effectiveness and way to many drawbacks . It will stop casual cheaters. But anyone who is dead set on cheating will cheat regardless. It's similar with drm those that want to pirate will regardless all the publishers can do is slow it down. and paying users are inconvenienced to buy a few days or weeks at most.
      • CarbonCarl's avatar
        CarbonCarl
        Hero (Retired)
        5 years ago
        @Horus_Blackheart
        Yeh I understand it's never full proof, I don't think anything is that could be implemented tbh other than staff sitting on servers monitoring them.

        It's a difficult situation for sure but I do think these type of Anti-Cheats make a noticeable difference and i'm all for that.

        I think one good solution to this could be offering some form of incentive to community members to help police servers, maybe then no anti-cheat would be required. Just a thought. 🙂

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