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KreladorNane's avatar
6 years ago

Possible solution to F2P vs P2P problem causing these toxic changes.

I've been thinking about the nature of the problem & how horrible the methods they've gone to ensure pay to play dominance & all the miserable changes (sim changes, how Malak was released) which have angered the community.

The solution I'd suggest would be....

Release two meta characters at a time, it's only possible to get one F2P via high arena ranking - to get both requires whaling.

So F2P players get to keep in with the meta (with hard work), whales get 2 meta defining teams at once.

Then add in a game types that give an additional reward if you have both groups (a PVE grand arena mode which having 2 meta defining squads increases payouts to further appeal to whales but still provides a boost to everybody else).

Imagine if they let us know in advance this was the plan.

"Hi people, we are dropping 2 Ancient Journey characters on X date

Jedi Knight Revan

Requires 7* - Bastila, T3M4, Bindo, Mission & Zalbar

Darth Revan

Requires 7* - Canderous, HK, Emo-Bastila, Juhani & Carth

Pick your path, will you fall to the dark side or be redeemed in the light?. Fight legendary battles across the KoToR landscape & take these powerful sith empire & Jedi leaders as a reward.

What's more - 1 month after the end of this event we will be releasing a new legendary character to match these two events together to form a final conclusion to our ancient journey events time-line."

Whales get a good bonus, regular players can still climb in arena (Tho may not be dominant as having a choice) whales get extra rewards for a new game mode to reward having 2 meta teams, regular players are happy.

As a F2P player, I would have had to pick between the two events - but I'd be happy to pick between 2 more balanced in power leaders if they are done together. Whales will want both & will pay to get both.

Getting even one would require high arena ranking & good resource management - but this way they don't have to keep ramping up the difficulty as by making it require 10 characters at once for one event means there is no way non whales can get both (Without running out totally & having to pay in the future).
  • yea, nah. That's not going to happen or work out. Their inability to create two equal teams alone would cause this to fail.
  • It's optimistic I know, but I can't see how else to get around the FP2/P2P model without utterly destroying half the population.

    They need to course correct if they want to continue long term, as I do worry about the long term future at this rate.
  • Its a mobile game and like most mobile games and most games in general run by ea its a pay to win game so of course the game revolves around that in mind
  • kiar1404's avatar
    kiar1404
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    Why ... the benefit of p2p is to get stuff earlier - that's all.
    A f2p can get the same stuff ... but later if he did not save crystals, gear and farmed the right toons at the right time
  • "kiar1404;c-1836057" wrote:
    Why ... the benefit of p2p is to get stuff earlier - that's all.
    A f2p can get the same stuff ... but later if he did not save crystals, gear and farmed the right toons at the right time


    Exactly but getting stronge teams early provides a bonus for a bit if not bonus alot of players would stop spending and there would be less content less updates and servers might get turned off
  • The worst is that all the time i asked about malak unlock everyone says stuff like :
    « FTP players can easily have malak too first time around » or « maximum money spent to get malak is not more than $40 »
  • "elmarko1234;c-1836052" wrote:
    It's optimistic I know, but I can't see how else to get around the FP2/P2P model without utterly destroying half the population.

    They need to course correct if they want to continue long term, as I do worry about the long term future at this rate.


    i highly doubt this will be the first ever "meta" that can't be countered by f2p teams, that is if you consider drevan/malak p2p in the first place.
    Also, it's not exactly half the population since the overwhelming majority is f2p.
  • I spent 0 but also not ftp but didnt spend anything to get him other then jkr the first go around and even that was maybe 100 dr got ftp stule but hoarded crystals and geared up OR 1. i like the faction 2.i figured malak was comming and probably be 2 events to unlock neefing all the toons we needed to unlock him so i had several of them at g12 and zetas on them befire even started only thing it costed me was credits to move mods around
  • CG don't want a solution, because there is no FTP vs. P2P problem. WAI