T6 to Heroic Comparison?
As a test 35 of us have attacked in T6 p1 with 1 team and cleared P1. We Will do less damage in Heroic but the bosses have less HP. Should we be ok to try? Guild is about 110M GP but we dont really focus on raid teams.
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- Thanks. Some of us have raid teams obviously but only 16 JTR in guild, etc. But we have good P2 3 and 4 teams. Lots of maxed Jedi NS and BH teams. Enough Chex mix too I think.
Will give it a go next reset. Thanks. "VonZant;c-1757266" wrote:
Thanks. Some of us have raid teams obviously but only 16 JTR in guild, etc. But we have good P2 3 and 4 teams. Lots of maxed Jedi NS and BH teams. Enough Chex mix too I think.
Will give it a go next reset. Thanks.
16 JTR is more than enough, that's 3mio dmg each JTR which is quite easy to pull off (especially after the nerf to DN).
P2 is fairly easy if you have enough synergy teams to send in (zBastila is a great option and not even that expensive, other options can be BH or Leia spam/machine gun Leia).
P3 might become the most tricky one for you as the team choices are limited. Mostly it comes down to the number of Chex mix and you might need to fill up some damage with "Rolocop" teams.
P4 is 2-3 good NS runs (obviously the more the better) to kill DN and take away a good bunch of HP from Sion in the process. Then its some kitchen sink against Sion with spare teams (remaining JTRs from P1? Remaining FO teams? etc...). Once Traya is alone it's another kitchen sink but you can take advantage of a slow STH + Jyn/FOO (use STHs taunt, give him 100% TM with Jyn/FOO and let him use the Unbreakable Will buff, he can't die then and refills the TM of your team when being hit --> you can use 3x purely for offense modded damage dealers then). You can see the basic concept of the STH thing in the vid below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjXSEwtgtEk- That doesn’t sound promising, (not focus on raid team part.)
What squad are you using in p1, and what kinda percents are you getting, that has a better shot at determining possible hstr compatibility - Quite frankly it’s a lot different than T6. Less health but bosses and adds hit like trucks. You will need certain teams for each phase. Heroic is definitely not something you can wing it on the fly.
- 110 million total GP, but no particular focus on raid teams? You will probably have trouble completing the raid. If you could almost complete tier 6 without a refresh using only rank 7 characters, you would probably have a goid chance at heroic tier.
However, there's really only 1 way to find out: Have a go at it. Yes, you may loose the raid tickets, but the lessons learned and the practice us valuable to your guild. - much harder, see youtube for team advice, but try it so you'll know. it's hard to judge the leap without trying hsth. glgl!
- Thank you @Legend91 for that. Had not even heard of the STH method.
"Legend91;c-1757560" wrote:
"VonZant;c-1757266" wrote:
Thanks. Some of us have raid teams obviously but only 16 JTR in guild, etc. But we have good P2 3 and 4 teams. Lots of maxed Jedi NS and BH teams. Enough Chex mix too I think.
Will give it a go next reset. Thanks.
16 JTR is more than enough, that's 3mio dmg each JTR which is quite easy to pull off (especially after the nerf to DN).
P2 is fairly easy if you have enough synergy teams to send in (zBastila is a great option and not even that expensive, other options can be BH or Leia spam/machine gun Leia).
P3 might become the most tricky one for you as the team choices are limited. Mostly it comes down to the number of Chex mix and you might need to fill up some damage with "Rolocop" teams.
P4 is 2-3 good NS runs (obviously the more the better) to kill DN and take away a good bunch of HP from Sion in the process. Then its some kitchen sink against Sion with spare teams (remaining JTRs from P1? Remaining FO teams? etc...). Once Traya is alone it's another kitchen sink but you can take advantage of a slow STH + Jyn/FOO (use STHs taunt, give him 100% TM with Jyn/FOO and let him use the Unbreakable Will buff, he can't die then and refills the TM of your team when being hit --> you can use 3x purely for offense modded damage dealers then). You can see the basic concept of the STH thing in the vid below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjXSEwtgtEk
I notice in the vid that he isn't using FOO's Marching Orders on Fulcrum - wouldn't that make more sense than using his piddly basic, so she gets more turns and delivers more monster hits?"Jarvind;c-1757764" wrote:
"Legend91;c-1757560" wrote:
"VonZant;c-1757266" wrote:
Thanks. Some of us have raid teams obviously but only 16 JTR in guild, etc. But we have good P2 3 and 4 teams. Lots of maxed Jedi NS and BH teams. Enough Chex mix too I think.
Will give it a go next reset. Thanks.
16 JTR is more than enough, that's 3mio dmg each JTR which is quite easy to pull off (especially after the nerf to DN).
P2 is fairly easy if you have enough synergy teams to send in (zBastila is a great option and not even that expensive, other options can be BH or Leia spam/machine gun Leia).
P3 might become the most tricky one for you as the team choices are limited. Mostly it comes down to the number of Chex mix and you might need to fill up some damage with "Rolocop" teams.
P4 is 2-3 good NS runs (obviously the more the better) to kill DN and take away a good bunch of HP from Sion in the process. Then its some kitchen sink against Sion with spare teams (remaining JTRs from P1? Remaining FO teams? etc...). Once Traya is alone it's another kitchen sink but you can take advantage of a slow STH + Jyn/FOO (use STHs taunt, give him 100% TM with Jyn/FOO and let him use the Unbreakable Will buff, he can't die then and refills the TM of your team when being hit --> you can use 3x purely for offense modded damage dealers then). You can see the basic concept of the STH thing in the vid below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjXSEwtgtEk
I notice in the vid that he isn't using FOO's Marching Orders on Fulcrum - wouldn't that make more sense than using his piddly basic, so she gets more turns and delivers more monster hits?
I was saving it up for the rare occasion of FOO acting after Fulcrum has used all three actions (meditate --> whirlwind --> basic) to get her into another "whirlwind phase". Chances of this happening are rather low though and it's a coinflip for Fulcrum to use her basic before Traya when you have hit her with a second whirlwind (Traya has tanked over 20 hits by then = 100% TM), it can be seen at 2:40 - 2:57."VonZant;d-193544" wrote:
As a test 35 of us have attacked in T6 p1 with 1 team and cleared P1. We Will do less damage in Heroic but the bosses have less HP. Should we be ok to try? Guild is about 110M GP but we dont really focus on raid teams.
Sorry bud, don't waste the tickets. You needs specific compositions for each phase.. and strong teams at that, modded correctly. Ie. Jtr resistance for p1, bastila or revan lead for p2, strong talzin lead (most save ns for p4), chexmix or chewmix for p3 (chewmix makes it much less rng dependant)... But even then you need at least a majority of the guild with these teams
Heroic is a big difference then t6 as said above. Not only do they hit harder and faster, but CDs greatly matter. Nihilus for instance only hits twice on teir 6 with his basic, on heroic it's 3 times. Not cleansing on p2 is a death sentence where as on t6 it's a meh..
Look at your numbers. If you are doing say 4 mill on p1 or p2, bump that down 50-75% on heroic. If you are doing 3 mill on p3 (outside of chexmix or chewmix as they don't work well with correct mods due to speed on t6) .. drop that down nearly 80%.
