Sorry devs, but the nightsister's have a ridiculous "loophole" that makes them impossible to be defeated unless you have a few characters in your team (e.g. B2). I easily almost destroyed a full nightsister team (talzin-daka-ventress-zombie-acolyte), talzin, ventress and daka were dead almost before they moved, but then acolyte was permanently stealthed and zombie permanently revived. i was for more than 4 minutes in this loophole in which i could only attack zombie and i would kill it in one round, but then he would revive and acolyte couldn't be targeted because she was stealthed! i don't mind losing to a stronger foe, but when i lose (draw) to a weaker team just because of something like this is quite frustrating and, in my opinion, it is an bad balance of the game. Barriss zeta was already bad enough by giving the chance of creating a timeout team, but this is just ridiculous. at least with barriss there is still a good chance if we mod our team with low cc and high offence, but with nightsisters is just ridiculous, you can't do anything tactical. Also, in all my posts I try to insist on the idea that you guys have to change the mod interface. Please allow us to create and name "mod sets" to make it easier to swap them around toons, it would make such a huge difference to the game and make it more enjoyable! Please do this asap! Thank you.

"Beviin_Skirata;c-1335699" wrote:B2 and Echo would have to cleanse, but few use them in meta now days. Next best is to have NiH up and have him annihilate zombie to end her respawning. Beviin, I'm not entirely sure, but I think I saw a video showing DN annihilate won't stop zombie from reviving? Can anyone confirm this?

DN Annihilate does NOT stop Zombie revive.

Echo, B2, Baze, Death Trooper, Tie Pilot (AoE Buff Immunity), heavy AoE Damage in general.... there are enough options to beat that. If you dont want to use one of them maybe look for another target?And like Huatimus said: Zombie revive > DN Annihilate

AOE damage, Acolyte doesn't heal that much to sustain it

Death Trooper under a veers zeta lead is amazing for it dude

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emvedebe
8 years ago

I'm sorry that i find the team you use lame and annoying, but trust me when i say it's not because my team became beatable or because i'm having trouble beating any team on my arena leaderboard. Maybe you need to believe that to be able to convince yourself that the mechanisme in play described by the OP isn't lame, but sadly for you it's not the reason i don't like the stealth/revive/perma un-able to target mechanisme.
When i start having trouble in arena, my team won't be considered meta anymore. If that happens i'll just switch to the next meta. This isn't a issue for me. I'll be a happy little camper when those annoying kenobi/barriss teams dissappear, a bit less so when they get replaced by a possibly even more annoying team though.
Anyway, meta teams always win, otherwise they wouldn't be meta. Maybe the next meta will be a superhard counter to your beloved NS ;)
EventineElesedi
8 years ago
Nobody has mentioned this one yet, but it seems to me that zVader should be able to handle this situation. Eventually you will get a giant stack of DoTs on Acolyte that she cannot deal with.
billcarson1966
8 years ago
Nuriela started a NS players spot, and I joined. I went all in on Talzin and have a fun hybrid team in mind that will take a month or so to assemble.

@leef You hav been around awhile and I certainly wasn’t singling you out or want an interent war with you...I have always wanted a reason to use Assaj and now I have it. The rework has mechanics that are certainly WAI and I agree annoying, but no more so than Zaul/GK/zarris. I can’t imagine having it be diffIcult to deal with in any aspect of this game except for upcoming DS TB where the enemies generated are a random set and you can’t back out.

Arena, put in Wiggs, beat them, buy refresh if needed to field defensive team(this would only happen/apply at the top so the 50 crystals would be worth it not to fall 200 places), GW put in Lando/Wiggs and beat them, and any new table nodes, put in Wiggs again.

I guess I’m just getting in my “sick of nerf Dooku, nerf chaze, dodge Zaul dodge, nerf Wiggs, nerf CLS, GW is too hard, now NS bug loop(wasn’t Lugo hailed a hero for something like this) threads early. I’m just happy it’s a DS team that is pulling this frustration off. Wait til players are fielding CLS, Han, GK, R2, and New Rey. I may never visit the forums again when that team is around.
seegester
8 years ago
Lol, meta rebels seem to get lost in dathomir's ruins :)

Remember, there were a lot of such odd stuff in the game:
- dooku under zDN
- GK + zBarriss
- chaze

So this one more combo just brings more diversity to the game.
nsnown
8 years ago
Guys, I think we can discuss the matters in the game without attacking each other, after all we are only here because we like this game. Just to clarify my points:
1) I know it's not a bug, but any tactics dependent on timeout is something I don't agree with, the same way I won't watch a football match if one of the teams is not going any further than their half field;
2) I love variety in arena and I think we have a lot more than we used to. NS's are quite good even without this, Talzin makes us need a healer and that can cause probs to typical cls/solo/thrawn/r2/gk, so that is something that ,makes us have to change our teams. But at least AI is playing for a win, not for a timeout.
3) The only reason why I have been complaining in this forum for the past year is because devs wont change mods interface, you have never seen me complaining about any toon before in the forums.
4) Ok, so timeout tactic is a tactic like any other and now that my anger after losing what looked like an easy win has passed I can accept that. Still, I will never like it and if we all used timeout tactics I bet most of us would leave the game as it would become quite boring to do the fights. But ok, I agree with you guys that we just have to adapt and change our team to be able to defeat them.
liovandamme
8 years ago
Discussion reopened. This is an excellent advice :
"Vetman;c-1336226" wrote:
Guys, I think we can discuss the matters in the game without attacking each other, after all we are only here because we like this game.

Keep it friendly. ;)
emvedebe
8 years ago
"Vetman;c-1336226" wrote:
Just to clarify my points:
1) I know it's not a bug, but any tactics dependent on timeout is something I don't agree with, the same way I won't watch a football match if one of the teams is not going any further than their half field;
2) I love variety in arena and I think we have a lot more than we used to. NS's are quite good even without this, Talzin makes us need a healer and that can cause probs to typical cls/solo/thrawn/r2/gk, so that is something that ,makes us have to change our teams. But at least AI is playing for a win, not for a timeout.
3) The only reason why I have been complaining in this forum for the past year is because devs wont change mods interface, you have never seen me complaining about any toon before in the forums.
4) Ok, so timeout tactic is a tactic like any other and now that my anger after losing what looked like an easy win has passed I can accept that. Still, I will never like it and if we all used timeout tactics I bet most of us would leave the game as it would become quite boring to do the fights. But ok, I agree with you guys that we just have to adapt and change our team to be able to defeat them.

i agree with everything, even with complaining about the mods interface ;)
also sorry for my contribution in derailing the thread, i should have let it go and explained my point of view a bit better.
kcypher
7 years ago
This combo is horrible game design no matter how some idiots spin it. You shouldnt need to avoid certain teams or bring specific units to overcome a stupid mechanic tied to 2 low end characters.
kcypher
7 years ago
"ProximaB1_;c-1336123" wrote:
It's working exactly how it's supposed to. The whole point to nightsisters is the reviving if they got rid of that they would be terrible.

Issue is the zombie infinitely reviving since a permastealthed NS is sitting around doing nothing.
XxiCOLOSSUSxX
7 years ago
"Whystler;c-1496158" wrote:
"ProximaB1_;c-1336123" wrote:
It's working exactly how it's supposed to. The whole point to nightsisters is the reviving if they got rid of that they would be terrible.

Issue is the zombie infinitely reviving since a permastealthed NS is sitting around doing nothing.

It's not an issue. Not anymore take a look at the too 50.. Nightsisters have almost all been pushed out (My shard at least) you don't have to avoid them, and it's on you if you don't want to change from your titans team to beat them.
Think current meta, EP, Vader, sion. Nihilus, SiT.. 5 AOE attacks? Done