What is wrong with fleet arena

Oh this thread again.

Odd - I have a very high success rate (lose maybe once a week), and that's usually only due to a horrible string of RNG. It helps to have ships that don't rely on chance (TL outside of Vader hello) as well as being able to force the AI into certain moves that give you an advantage.

Weird "bugs" can often be attributed to not fully understanding all the factors at play.
For instance, HT vs HT. If your Houndstooth goes first (you mentioned your ship being stronger), you're hitting the opposing HT while it still has a tenacity buff. By the time his ship goes, you have taunt and so lose the tenacity boost. Boom there's your Breach success rate.

"Vendi1983;c-1706727" wrote:
Interesting thing I've noted: I stun Vader with Silencer, Biggs does his special to call an assist, Vader un-stuns and assists. Nowhere in Biggs'ability does it mention cleansing the assisting ally.

Without more details, I can't tell you exactly what's happening, but turn order here would be Silencer - Vader - Biggs. The stun is just expiring.

"2% dodge"

Just defeated Geo trio under Tarkin within 60 seconds of payout. They're not as OP as many make them out to be. Just need to strategize.

KRU stuns Sun Fac, Vader TL on him next. Biggs assist if able, if not basic, normally dead by the next move or two anyway. Move on from there.

HT as a reinforcement as well. The full gamut of "OP/Broken Ships 2.0"

"KyoO1234;c-1713722" wrote:
Well done EA! Making the already overpowered Genosian ships even more powerful (Sun Fac ignoring taunt anyone?!?!)

This is getting ridiculous.

Video citation needed.

Haha love it. This was my most recent fleet Battle. I wiped his FOTP with my opening three moves. I go first with Tarkin's Ion Cannons. Next he does the same move. Here's the result: (would love to see the actual odds of this happening...)



Zero of 4 possible debuffs on my end, 6/6 on his end. Still ended up winning but this was a bit ridiculous.

"KyoO1234;c-1715833" wrote:

"Kokie;c-1714724" wrote:

"KyoO1234;c-1713722" wrote:
Well done EA! Making the already overpowered Genosian ships even more powerful (Sun Fac ignoring taunt anyone?!?!)

This is getting ridiculous.

Geonosian ships are my favorite opponent......usually a 1min win

What ships do you use?

And Sun Fac ignoring taunt when coming in as reinforcement is happening

Whose taunt are you talking about being ignored here?

Sun Fac bypasses (but not ignores!) any reactive taunt when his ship enters the field. The only one that comes to my mind immediately is Sun Fac's own taunt, so I'll use that for this example. Sun Fac checks if the active opponent is buffed or not at the start of the turn, if they are then he'll taunt and get his other benefits; if they aren't, nothing happens. The start of the turn is your capital ship's action and capital ships can't be buffed, so Sun Fac doesn't taunt and you're free to target whoever you want. Then you pick "Reinforce" as the capital ship's action, pick Sun Fac, he enters the board, you're still targeting whoever you want, and his reinforce-Stun triggers, then he gets whatever buff the capital ship gives (Advantage, Retribution, Crit Up, Valor, whatever), and THEN Sun Fac's turn starts and the Sun Fac already on the board checks for buffs.

You can check this yourself. Start with your Sun Fac on the board, and bring Biggs (with his reinforcement ability maxed out) out from reinforcements. The AI will always bring Sun Fac first, which will stun Biggs 100% of the time (the AI is forced to target him because he's taunting) and then their Sun Fac will use their special to stun your Sun Fac 100% of the time (again, the AI is forced to target him beause now HE'S taunting, but he wasn't taunting when the enemy capital ship took the Reinforce action).

Timing on this game is very much like Magic: the Gathering. An effect goes on the chain, and unless it's countered or fizzles it will always go off, even if a later effect makes the initial target invalid. Start of Turn --> Reinforce --> Reinforce ability --> start of turn (ie: Sun Fac's taunt) --> New ship takes action.

"KyoO1234;c-1716150" wrote:
But I am sure somebody will tell me I just didn’t understand how fleet arena works...

Well...… Because you don't.

My HT taunts (with breach). Sun Fac comes in as reinforcement and ignores HT taunt targeting my KRS destroying it with the other Genosian ships assisting. Happened 3 times to me already.

Sun Fac can't call assists. Meanwhile, Geonosian Spy has an ability that calls all Geonosian allies to assist him, and his reinforcement ability is to GIVE the target a Taunt buff and then to cause another random enemy to taunt as well.

So the Spy comes in, Hound's Tooth gains a taunt, which he already has, and then a random ship of yours also taunts (it can hit ships in stealth, which will bring them out of stealth) and then the Spy uses its group assist to swarm the weaker of the two taunting ships.

You've got to read every ability every time.

Here's what I've garnered from a quick perusal of this thread:

99% of fleet arena complaints result from people not bothering to read ability text.