@jackjack_k I see what you're saying and I agree to an extent, but they also are two totally different games. I've never, ever been able to look at 3 and say "this is just built on from 2" it just feels way too different. Don't get me wrong, I love ANYTHING sims I even went out and got myself a plumbob tattoo :D but there's just something about sims 2 maybe it's because I started playing it when I was like really young I can't math today I was born in 1996 and I started playing ts1 and then was geeked as plum with ts2 came out. Ts2 is my childhood and I still play it now and I love it so very much. It doesn't compare to 3 or 4 at all. And I would LOVE to see what they'd do with it if they kept doing things to it.