Hair Glitch

"coco;c-16915682" wrote:
If I'm understanding this right, the toddler is meant to be wearing a cc hair in that picture but instead the EA pigtails hair is floating above her head. Do you know the name of the hair? I think it's bad cc. Try downloading a different version of it.

The hair that was on the toddler's head was the EA butch haircut, so if the game actually assigned her a CC hairstyle, I don't know which one it was. I have a few for toddler girls, all made by Cazy, downloaded from TSR. And yes, the above picture was taken since I added several CC hairs to my game, including all of the toddler ones.

I have all my CC converted to package files, so I could check them in s3pe and see if there's something wrong, if I knew what to look for. Do you know? Or maybe I need to look for it with S3OC, like @TadOlson suggested? I've used s3pe a lot, so I'm familiar with it, but I'm sure I can find out how to use S3OC too, if I need to.

@IreneSwift I don't know much about S3OC, TadOlson uses the tool to clone and change the prices of objects in the game. I tagged Karritz earlier because I'm sure this glitch happened to her as well. I think she was unsure of which cc was causing the floating hair so she used the 50/50 method to single it out. Using S3PE might be worth a go, I'm sorry I wish I was more help :disappointed:

@coco I think there is a hair that has been enabled incorrectly. I don't know how to fix it but I think you need S3PE to change a setting in the code used to make the hair. Since I've never looked at that type of code I'd be clueless as to how to fix it. But it should be fixable.

I did have floating hair once but I think my problem was bad cc that I finally got rid of by using the 50/50 method. It took a really long long time to find it. But that hair looked great on my toddler. It was causing other glitches in the game though, and the main one was when I couldn't open the save any more. Fortunately I use Save As so I was able to go back to an earlier save and test if it was the hair and putting it on a toddler and saving made the save unable to be opened again. That's when I knew I had it and removed it and there were no more issues.

I did look up the CASP file, with s3pe, for each of the CC toddler girl hairs I have, and all were set correctly for female toddlers only. I don't have any for male toddlers. So if it's something that's set incorrectly, it isn't the toddler hairs.

"IreneSwift;c-16924595" wrote:
I did look up the CASP file, with s3pe, for each of the CC toddler girl hairs I have, and all were set correctly for female toddlers only. I don't have any for male toddlers. So if it's something that's set incorrectly, it isn't the toddler hairs.

I don't think it would be a badly set toddler hair because it floats so far above the toddler's head. It is probably a child's hair - need to have a close look at if it floats at child or teen head height to be sure tho. EDIT: could be YA or A hair too - need to try to see how high it floats. Maybe if it is on a walking toddler it might be easier to work out which.

So, are you saying I should check all the CC hairs in s3pe to see if any of the child, teen, etc., hairs are set for toddlers? I can do that. I don't have all that many of them.

OK, I checked every CC hair I have, even the male hairs, and none of them are incorrectly set for toddlers. What next?

The underlying problem is more complicated than that. The bad EA pigtail CAS part is represented multiple times among the game and patch files. One has to find all of them to get rid of the poor age stage allowance coding. One of my colleagues at NRaas (retired now) managed to do this on his own game, but his explanation was so complicated I'm afraid very few if any of us were able to follow it. :/

So I would have to find it in the game file? Then the glitch has been there all along, this just happens to be the first and only time I've ever seen it? I was wondering how bad CC could make an EA hair appear in its place, since CC was brought up even after it was mentioned that the pigtails are EA. If it's not going to corrupt my game to have it appear like that, I'm not going to concern myself with it. If I ever see it again, I'll take the toddler into stylist and give them different hair, like I did this time.

@IreneSwift - I would have to dig up the explanation for this that we got from J4Ks at NRaas many years ago, but again most of us couldn't really follow it all. If the female pigtails do not corrupt the game when they appear incorrectly on grown males, then they shouldn't when they appear on toddlers either. It just looks ridiculous until we fix it on the individual sims. It's not a CC, an EP, or a mods thing as players on all kinds of combos including total vanilla and those on the other extreme who work with Dresser/MC mod blacklists and CASP editors experience it as well.

Strangely enough, I've never seen this hair showing up in unwanted places in my own game but maybe it's only a matter of time.