Sims all look the same!

"annabethc;c-16834263" wrote:
this is why i don't play sims 3. In sims 3, no matter how many sliders you use, or cc you use, your sims always look the same. In sims 4, with direct manipulation, anything is possible, and there is truly variety.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3ohzdUuqOMFwxPyUvu/200w.gif?cid=3640f6095beed3046b77544859657d0f
I give up.

There there you guys, sometimes you just have to accept that some are a lost cause. It's okay. We aren't the ones missing out <3

OK...so they all look the same...

"annabethc;c-16834263" wrote:
In sims 3, no matter how many sliders you use, or cc you use, your sims always look the same.

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TRY HARDER!!!!

Getting real tired of people coming in here and complaining when they don't even give one ounce of effort into trying to learn the sliders and when and where to use cc and then trying to trash Sims 3 because they haven't put in the effort. If after seeing countless examples of people who have managed to create different-looking sims with sliders and cc, you're still yappin' off about "all sims look the same", I'm sorry, but nothing I or ANYONE else on this thread says is going to get through.

I've only been playing this game for two years. What's your excuse?

"@annabethc;c-16834263" wrote:
this is why i don't play sims 3. In sims 3, no matter how many sliders you use, or cc you use, your sims always look the same. In sims 4, with direct manipulation, anything is possible, and there is truly variety.

So, it's the "Direct" manipulation which makes it possible? It's that pull/push thing which makes variety? ;)

Oh, Goodness. To me, TS4 Sims look similar as TS3 or TS2 Sims if no 'direct' manipulation is done to the Sim.

I don't have the time to go through each and every single slider with you...so here's a quick primer on Head Shape with the first four "dots" in Head and Ears.

1. Here's your familiar opening array of faces when you go in to see the Head and Ears tab in CAS.
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Wanna know why that's important - it's because that's where you're going to be picking your STARTING POINT.

2. When you click that magnifying glass - you get to your sliders. Your first setting is global, that's where you adjust your selected head-shape and whether it's going to remain a "basketball" like you think all Sims 3 heads are. You see where I highlighted? That's called your head-width slider (and yes, that's one of the basic ones that you receive when you open up TS3)
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3. The second slider you can manipulate to change the head shape is jaw width. You notice how some RL people have sharply angled jaws. This is what you use to create that.
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4. The Jaw Height slider affects how far down on the face the point of your jaw is going to be with that sim. That also changes the facial structure of the sim.
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6. If you go into Cheeks, you will find Cheekbone Height and Cheekbone Shape. These two sliders affect exactly how the shape of your sim's cheeks are going to be and where the cheekbone is reflects on how the shape of the face will appear - if you have high cheekbones, you're going to want to crank the slider to the right completely, if your cheekbones are low, you go left.
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These two sliders can actually drastically change a sim's appearance.

7. Cheek fullness...does your sim have sunken in cheeks or does he/she have full cheeks https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kkf2SpnmCEA/W-7oiDfkD8I/AAAAAAAAa8Q/-vMKeILEV3szMTIVmAVdiygFlq5F6LoMACLcBGAs/s1600/CAS7.jpg An example of where I used this and the previous two sliders...
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Of course after this, I'm still sure that most TS3 detractors will say, "Oh...I still think they look the same." Well, I can't help you there. If at this point that you can't figure out how or where to use these sliders, I'm sorry, but I've seen people work wonders with these sliders.

I can't help those who aren't willing to put in the time and the effort.

"Rflong7;c-16834632" wrote:

"@annabethc;c-16834263" wrote:
this is why i don't play sims 3. In sims 3, no matter how many sliders you use, or cc you use, your sims always look the same. In sims 4, with direct manipulation, anything is possible, and there is truly variety.

So, it's the "Direct" manipulation which makes it possible? It's that pull/push thing which makes variety? ;)

Oh, Goodness. To me, TS4 Sims look similar as TS3 or TS2 Sims if no 'direct' manipulation is done to the Sim.

There’s indeed nothing direct about this manipulating, it is not like modeling clay. It just suggests it is, because you adjust a face by pushing and pulling, the sliders are sort of hidden, but it works exactly the same as in Sims 3. So it’s just as varied and just as limited. “Anything is possible” simply is not true. CAS is easier to handle in 4, that much is true. And of course it has the different body shapes, that is a nice touch.

Here's my latest WIP. He's an old sim I made using only EA sliders but will be getting a complete going over with CC sliders. Even with only EA sliders, I don't think he looks like every other sim I have seen.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4907/45002521795_143a4e5cee_o.jpg

@Mikezumi no way does he look like every other sim :o & if you took a pic of me now I would look a lot like your siggy simself >:)

Thanks @imdragonit :) When I bring my boys out of CAS and look at them in game I always look the same as my siggy SS :D

"I do Not look like that pretty boy Sim." XD

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb321/Rflong13/Screenshot-12.jpg

They all look like them... cause ya can't tell them apart. XD
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Rflong7/Gothhouse.jpg

My Cereal! XD
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Rflong7/Screenshot-9.jpg

This is fun. Where are all my pictures.., I need new pictures. :scream:

I'm not very good at making Sims look like people. :blush:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Rflong7/Screenshot-334.jpg