thing is with the cheats, while I was trying to fix the problem before I came in here, I thought I'd try what worked in Sims 2 and hit control, shift, C. I thought maybe I'd try move_objects on, or see what is in the list. But Control shift C didn't do anything, just made things a bit darker. There was no box to type in that I could see. So I hit Escape.
I read the suggestion to do the reset. I don't know what's going on with the control shift C, and I didn't know if I wanted to reset everyone. Then after that there would sure to be another pile of sims stuck at that back door after another while. So the actual diner needs to be fixed, after dealing with all the stuck sims.
I thought about bulldozing it or deleting it. But one of my household sims had just beforehand gotten a job in the culinary and the town view showed that diner as his new workplace. I assume all culinary jobs start at that diner. So deleting that diner would mess up that part of the game. So a different diner needs to go in it's place or that diner needs to be edited so the building isn't so close to the edge of the lot. When I was in the build mode, it did allow me to pick it up, but everywhere spare on the lot I tried to place it, the game said 'location out of bounds'
Now I don't know if you're able to see inside the diner to edit it's walls etc with certain XP's.
By accident for a short time I was in the build mode of being able to re-align the lot, I wasn't able to get back into that after. It wouldn't let me align the building more centred, probably because the picnic tables and carspots, and a couple of collectible rocks were in the way but it did allow me to rotate the lot to face the opposite way. That's the only re-alignment it allowed. I thought I could go back into that and do that, they'd at least be free to walk away themselves, and then after they'd walked away I'd be able to delete the lot. But would that mess with the gameplay as in the culinary career, since that diner is tied to at least the lower ranks of it? Any idea how it was that I was in the build mode that has the re-alignment options? I can't remember how I did to retrace my steps there.
I would then need to replace the diner with a better version, like the one in Sunset Valley. But I don't know how to do that.
I find it odd that in the default lot bin there's no extra community lots apart from parks. I've seen player made diners on the exchange for download. Will they act as THE diner if I download and place them in my game?
I see Dim Sum saying to place a secondary diner. Where do I get one from that will act as an official diner and how do I put it in?
Last night however, after getting my brain in a knot over the what then's and it being 3am, I just deleted the whole game/town. And accidentally deleted my new game. I smacked my forehead with my hand.
Before giving up for the night, I went through my folders and tried to see anything needing cleaning out. There's a lot of cache files, I don't know which one's to clean out. I left them. I don't have any CC. After things going wrong with my first couple of games I got rid of the few CC items I had, thinking that would set it right, namely the mods from MTS that test if CC is working, the no video and no sparkles thingies. The game did seem to run more glitch free after that. Apart from the diner. So I've decided not to use any mods.
Also before going to bed, I created a new game. I'm yet to start playing it today. I made it for Sunset Valley. I won't start any games in Riverview again until I know how to edit or replace the diner.
You mentioned there being an issue with it before, and the school. I looked through the previous patches and don't see the diner being mentioned. My current patch is supposed to include all previous issues anyway I was told, or is that not the case and I need all the previous one's too? I also can't find any old forum posts about this issue, which is weird because there is a fault with the design of the lot and like I say I surely can't be the only person with this problem after all this time, since the lot has a bad design.
You say you're missing townies. Have you been to any of their party invitations only to find the host isn't there, the house empty and hardly any other guests? Have you invited someone over or out on a date and even though your relationship is fine they're saying they're hung up with something else? Look through your town because they are stuck somewhere. That is what was wrong with my townies. And they were all at the diner, stuck. The streets were quiet, parties were empty, dates being stood up.
I hope this new game I play today doesn't mess up. If it does I think I'll give up. And it'll make me sceptical of the product quality to come with Sims 4.
