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Re: Help choosing specs for dedicated Sims 3 PC!!!

@dianaxfreire  This is definitely simpler, and I can access the Swiss site just fine.  Here's what I'd suggest:

For the CPU, I don't think the upgrade from the 7800X3D to the 7900X3D is worth the price.  It's not a bad choice, but the "slower" processor will drive any graphics card currently out there without a problem, and it would probably take 5-8 years before it had trouble with a new mid-tier graphics card (e.g. the RTX 4070 right now).  Your money would better be spent elsewhere if that's any consideration at all.

For the motherboard, since you're not building the computer yourself, the mATX form factor is fine, and you don't need all the extra expansion of a larger board.  And these processors are difficult to overclock, not that you'd need the extra performance.  So the first Gigabyte option, the B650M D3SH, will be great, and the more expensive boards aren't going to give you any practical benefit.  I still don't trust Asus with this generation's motherboards, but that's me being cautious.  If you're comfortable with the company, the Prime B650-Plus is clearly better than the cheapest option, but further upgrades won't make a practical difference.

For the RAM, the site's markup is a little higher than necessary, and it doesn't list timings or enough for me to figure out the details.  One option, if you're interested, is to buy the cheapest 8 GB RAM and upgrade it yourself.  RAM is extremely easy to install, and, as mentioned, very cheap right now.  If you're interested, let me know what stores you'd buy from, and I'll list the best options so you can decide whether getting exactly what you want is worth the extra effort.  If not, the 5,600 MHz option is fine, but upgrading to 6,000 MHz is relatively cheap.

For the graphics card, the upgrade from a 3060 to a 4060 is CHF 12, which is well worth the price.  Even if Sims 3 will never use the extra power, other games would.  And if you decide to flip the card for something faster in a few years, a 4060 will have a significantly better resale value.  I don't think it's worth paying extra for the Asus card, not at this level.  It would be different if you were buying a more expensive GPU or you planned to overclock it, but running it stock, you likely wouldn't see any difference at all even in benchmark tests.

For the SSD, either Samsung Pro (980 or 990) is going to be effectively the same, with the Evo being a bit slower in benchmarks but not enough to make a difference in everyday use, and certainly not in games.  You could save a bit of money by going with Corsair, also very reliable and running at Evo speeds.

I wouldn't bother getting an HDD at all.  If it turns out you need bulk storage down the road, you could get an external drive or a secondary internal one; installing it is as simple as opening the case and connecting two cables.  And with a 2 TB internal drive, the slower speed of an external HDD won't make a practical difference: everything you want to work with in the moment will fit on the SSD, and you can set large files to transfer back and forth while you do something else.

For the power supply, definitely go with one of the "enthusiast" models, both because they have at least a Gold rating and because they're modular.  750 W is more than enough for this system and should easily be enough for a newer xx60-series GPU if and when you decide to upgrade.

For the CPU cooler, the first DeepCool option should be fine as long as the room doesn't get too hot.  The cooler can dissipate 175 watts of heat, and the 7900X3D's TDP is 120W, with it typically using much less than that during gaming.  So you'd have plenty of headroom.  I don't know enough about FrostFlow as a brand to tell you whether it makes quality products, but DeepCool does, and the upgrade is cheap.  Standard thermal paste should be fine too, but spend the extra CHF 10 if you absolutely do not want to ever have to reapply it down the road.

For the rest, it's mostly about what accessories you might want.  I would suggest finding out how many fans come with the case you choose, and ordering more if the number is less than 4.  I'd probably go with at least 5 total myself, just to be on the safe side, especially with an air cooler.  Because the heat from the CPU and GPU is going to be dissipated inside the case, you really need good airflow here.  But neither component kicks off that much heat, so it's not critical to have the most overpowered cooling setup.  The standard fans should be fine; no need to spend extra here unless you want RGB.

Neither motherboad I mentioned includes wifi, but you may never need it, so skip the add-in card unless you think you might actually use it some day.  I would suggest not getting even the trial version of Norton antivirus at all because it's basically bloatware and annoying to remove.  If you need a third-party antivirus, use a different one, but Windows Defender is also very good these days.

Finally, for the monitor, do you want to buy from PCSpecialist, or are you open to other stores?  And do you know what size you'd like?  I don't necessarily have specific recommendations because there are a lot of good options out there, but prices can vary a lot.  A great option at $200 is not even a good one at $350, and the absolute perfect 24" monitor is a bad choice for someone who wants a bigger screen.

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  • dianaxfreire's avatar
    dianaxfreire
    2 years ago

    Okay, so I went back and changed some of my choices, including the GPU - but now the website is telling me I can't order a GPU support bracket because the 4060 is too small for that bracket size (and they don't have alternative sizes). Is a bracket necessary? My Google search left me feeling confused, some seem to say it's completely necessary, some say it's not necessary at all.

    I also have another question: Windows 11 is the standard OS, but lots of people seem to be saying (on Reddit) it would be better to buy an older pc with Windows 7 or 10 on it. Is Windows 11 really impossible to play Sims 3 (or Sims 2) with, even if using those optimisation mods I read about? I also read it should be possible to "downgrade" to Windows 10 using the "media creation tool", is that something you'd recommend for smooth playing?

    Finally, I am probably going to buy/order the monitor on https://mediamarkt.ch! If you're still not totally fed up with me and my questions, I'd be happy if you helped me pick out something that's nice (and not curved!)

    And do you have a Ko-fi account or something else I could send you a little token of appreciation through?

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
    Hero+
    2 years ago

    @dianaxfreire  The 4060 ti doesn't need a support bracket.  Some of the heavier cards do benefit from one, but those are the models with faster chips and physically larger coolers.  If you do notice some sag in the GPU, and I wouldn't expect it but it's always worth checking, there are plenty of stores that sell brackets, or, frankly, you could just put something small in the case to prop up the card.  But I really don't think this would be even a minor problem.  The only exception is if you're moving houses, in which case just take out the GPU and reinstall it when the computer is in its new home.

    Windows 11 runs Sims 3 as well as Windows 10, at least at this moment.  And yes, it would be simple to reinstall Windows once you received the PC, which would mean you could choose between 11 and 10.  I would absolutely not install Windows 7 because your hardware doesn't even have official support for it.  Most of the drivers would probably work, but you could run into all sorts of sneaky issues that could be difficult to diagnose and might not be fixable without an OS upgrade.  If you want to use 10 for now, that's reasonable, but keep in mind it's losing support sometime relatively soon, apparently in October 2025 but that could get pushed back.  So you'd want or need to upgrade before too long anyway.

    The one thing I strongly suggest is avoiding OneDrive entirely.  That means either setting up Windows while offline, so Microsoft doesn't require you to enter an email address and automatically tie in OneDrive; or creating a local admin Windows account after the initial setup and using that account instead.  I can help with this once you have the computer in hand.

    For the monitor, I'm a little surprised at the relatively sparse selection from MediaMarkt, but the site does have a couple of very good options.  This one is the best combination of price and specs: bright, great colors, high resolution, high refresh rate, from a company that's been making quality monitors for a long time.

    https://www.mediamarkt.ch/de/product/_asus-tuf-gaming-vg27wq-1979381.html

    This is an alternative if you want to save some money.  It's a little dimmer but still bright enough, with otherwise equal specs.  AOC makes panels for other better-known sellers and keeps a few of its own, so the quality of the screen is still high.

    https://www.mediamarkt.ch/de/product/_aoc-q27g2s-eu-2197779.html

    If you're not thrilled about the prices, I can look elsewhere for better deals; just let me know.

    As for a token of appreciation, you're very sweet to offer, but I do this for fun and because I enjoy helping.  And picking out hardware for a new computer is always fun.

  • dianaxfreire's avatar
    dianaxfreire
    2 years ago

    Perfect! I think I have my built all set up and I'll probably be ordering in a few weeks - I'll definitely let you know once it's here!

    If you rethink the whole ko-fi thing, please please let me know! I don't think I could ever thank you enough for coming to the rescue, you are an absolute angel!

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @dianaxfreire  That looks good, and I hope you get exactly what you want out of it.  If you see a change in prices or inventory before ordering, always a possibility with computer hardware, feel free to ask more questions.  Otherwise, let me know if anything else comes up once you have Sims 3 installed.  The one critical step is limiting the in-game framerates, which should only take a few clicks, but it's best to wait to do so until you can test the results in-game.

  • dianaxfreire's avatar
    dianaxfreire
    2 years ago
    @puzzlezaddict Hi there! I’m back with an update! I ordered the pc two weeks ago and it finally arrived yesterday. I spent the afternoon setting up the games (Sims 2 UC and Sims 3 + all expansions and some stuff packs). I followed some optimization guides, added the LazyDuchess Smooth Patch and edited some game files to get the game to recognize the GTX 4060 and it seems to have worked! I also patched the Sims 2. I play tested for around half an hour and it seems to be running really well at mid to high graphics. Also the computer in general is so fast, I’ve never seen anything like it. So thank you so so much once again! You deserve an award for “Most Helpful Person On The Internet” 🙏🏼
  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @dianaxfreire  I'm so glad to hear everything is working the way you wanted.  If you do run into any trouble, you know where to find me, but hopefully it's smooth sailing from here on out.

    You should be able to play Sims 3 on ultra graphics settings, minus the two (water and high-detail lots) that need to be turned down to lower the stress on the game engine.  You can of course use whatever settings you want, but there's no need to artificially limit yourself other than the two problematic settings.  I keep water on "mirrors only" and high-detail lots on 2 when I'm playing, although there's no harm in turning them up for pretty screenshots.

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